Help on top 20 Sith?

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/darth-bane-respect-thread/97390/

Some of Nova's threads are more or less lacking in content.

I'm sure Ant can attest to this.

Yeah but Hord's Hype has feats, get me? I mean it's not like Marka Ragnos where he's "OMG MOST POWERFULZ1!1" he gets some solid statements, but I understand that his worshipper might not be the most reliable sauce. Didn't one Dread Master take on a Strike Team though? As for Malak vs. Bane, I think Bane can beat him.

Yeah, I really want Bane to be at least number 10. His feats being on a Nexus shouldn't make him like 1000 times more powerful.

I can see him being 10 or lower. But throwing guards, breaking boxes and tents, and killing guards with a couch are pretty pathetic in comparison to feats from Malgus or Krayt. He isn't as strong as he is wanked over here, I'd put him well beneath a lot of high tier PT Jedi. His lightning withstanding he isn't very skilled as a lightsaber duelist, and his telekinetic feats are mediocre at their very best. He never was able to replicate any of his showings off nexus, so they aren't very important in judging how powerful he is.

I also think Maul is just below or might be in the same tier as DC members. DC members are strong though, two of them destroyed the Citadel from their fight. Maul's never had such a huge feat like that.

I'd have to know the circumstances surrounding them "destroying a citadel". TOR is notorious for hype, and I don't buy any of their feats unless I know the specifics of how they occurred. Maul should be pretty high up there imo, slightly above Kun/Krayt/Malgus and beneath Vader and Dooku.

Ah, so you think Dooku could be above Kun as well? I honestly want to put him above Kun and have him top 10 as well. However I learned that the Massassi Temples are extremely powerful temples that could withstand turbolaser firepower but thanks to the DS the Imperials didn't need to worry, this was implied in the Novelization.

Kun's feats with drain and the blasts were influenced by the darkside energies in the Temple of Yavin. In the TOTJ audiodrama Kun stated he could charge his gauntlets, but there is no real way to know if they'd be as powerful as they were in the Yavin temple. Likely not.

Dooku is faster, a better duelist, and is comparably powerful to Kun, though he has superior telekinetic showings.

Maul wouldn't beat Krayt.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Some of Nova's threads are more or less lacking in content.

I'm sure Ant can attest to this.

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He is just mad he Nova doesnt wank Bane

Originally posted by The Merchant
I also think Maul is just below or might be in the same tier as DC members. DC members are strong though, two of them destroyed the Citadel from their fight. Maul's never had such a huge feat like that.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Palpatine
Vitiate
Plagueis
Nihilus
Dread Masters
Caedus
Hord
Vader
Krayt
Bane
The Jen'Ari
Exar Kun
Dooku
Zannah
Traya
Ulic Qel-Droma
Freedon Nadd
Malak
Maul
Sion

- Darth Sidious <= Emperor Vitiate
- Darth Nox (Augmented by power of multiple Force ghosts)
- Darth Plagueis <= Tulak Hord
- Darth Nihilus

--- --- --- --- --- --- Dread Masters standards --- --- --- --- --- ---

- Exar Kun <= Emperor's Wrath II
- Darth Malgus (Emperor)
- Darth Caedus
- Darth Krayt (Emperor)
- Darth Revan

--- --- --- --- --- --- Emperor's Wrath standards (Emperor's Wrath I) --- --- --- --- --- ---

- Marka Ragnos (Emperor)
- Darth Zannah

--- --- --- --- --- --- The Exiles standards (Ajunta Pall) --- --- --- --- --- ---

- Darth Traya

--- --- --- --- --- --- Rule of Two standards (Darth Bane) --- --- --- --- --- ---

- Darth Vader
- Darth Wyyrlok III

--- --- --- --- --- --- Dark Council standards --- --- --- --- --- ---

- Count Dooku <= Darth Malak
- Freedon Nadd

I'll get to the rest later, Merc.

Palpatine
Vitiate
Plagueis
Nihilus
Dread Masters
Caedus

A fairly solid top 5, though I don't think it makes sense to list the collective Dread Masters as a single Sith--And if you mean each individual DM to be on tier with Emperor Vitiate, I'm fairly sure you're mistaken.

I personally have a fair share of doubts concerning Nihilus's ability to make the top 5, but that's a fairly unpopular opinion, and it would make sense to be inclusive of him.

Hord
Vader
Krayt
Bane
The Jen'Ari
Exar Kun

Again, not bad. Tulak Hord can't really be definitively ranked IMO, but he should be roughly on par with the others here. Still, if you're going to include him, wouldn't it be somewhat sinful not to include his rival Alloysius Kalig in the top 20?

I also wouldn't put Bane over Exar Kun. And who are the Jen'Ari?

My bad since I can't edit my opening post anymore, but just for those who didn't see my newer list, @Newguy the Jen'ari are the Jedi exiles like Ajunta Pall, Murr, etc:

1.Palpatine
2.Vitiate
3.Plagueis
4.Nihilus
5.Dread Masters
6.Caedus
7.Tulak Hord
8.Krayt
9.Vader
10.Malgus
11.Order of Sith Lord's (Bane's Lineage up until Plagueis. Plagueis, Palpatine, Dooku, Maul, and Vader vary.)
12.Bane
13.Exar Kun
14.Count Dooku
15.Dark Council members and Emperor's Wrath (The ones who fight, ones in politics aren't in it.)
16.The Jen'ari
17.Traya
18.Malak
19.Freedon Nadd
20.Maul

Hord shouldn't be up there unless you believe rumors, and Bane is inferior to Exar Kun as a duelist/force user. He should be like 19/20 beneath Traya and Maul for sure.

True, I forgot about Kallig, if I had to rank him he's probably under Caedus. Although isn't Nox his successor or did Nox never surpass Kallig?

Here is another thread where posters put SW characters on a tier system, its a mix of Jedi/Sith. In case you didn't catch it before Merchant:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t603796.html

Huh, interesting. Will review it to see what others think.