Originally posted by Stoic
Wasn't it stated back in the day that the Beyonder was below the LT?
Even after the Beyonder retcon, this scene is STILL valid. Mentioned in the Handbook entries of the Beyonder, Death, and the LT. To cement the fact that it's still a valid feat, it was shown in panel in an a later issue of Quasar :
Beyonder wins.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yes and no. Remember this scene from SWII? Where Beyonder is threatening to destroy Death and all the powers of the multiverse can't stop him and are begging him not to do it :
The LT was there and he could stop Beyonder or bring back Death once he destroyed her.Even after the Beyonder retcon, this scene is STILL valid. Mentioned in the Handbook entries of the Beyonder, Death, and the LT. To cement the fact that it's still a valid feat, it was shown in panel in an a later issue of Quasar :
Beyonder wins.
Wasn't it revealed somewhere (can't remember the source) that SW-II Beyonder couldn't even have beaten the planet of Celestials. Like, it was all an illusion they put in his mind or something?
Also like abhi said- in GOTG LT confined Beyonder to his own universe with a gesture. He was clearly beyond him postretcon.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to rain on your parade but Beyonder was outright shown inferior in GOTG to LT and even Eternity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Beyonder was actually from outside the multiverse, from his own universe.How does that make him an alternate universe Beyonder?
Originally posted by Galan007
👆Mainstream Beyonder essentially just introduced himself into the GotG timeline.
Originally posted by LordGod
Wasn't it revealed somewhere (can't remember the source) that SW-II Beyonder couldn't even have beaten the planet of Celestials. Like, it was all an illusion they put in his mind or something?Also like abhi said- in GOTG LT confined Beyonder to his own universe with a gesture. He was clearly beyond him postretcon.
Yeah, in Fantastic Four Annual #26:
But according to the most recent handbook, the fight really happened.
Originally posted by Galan007
I mean... Since when is canonicity dictated by whether or not an event is referenced in a bio?Is there any legitimate info that actually proves the Beyonder in question was an alternate..? Because the page abhi posted seems pretty definitive, imo.
The Marvel Appendix guys (Marvel defers to these guys for information for their Handbooks) agree with the Official Handbook Entry :
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/beyondersw.htm
Again, the GOTG timeline isn't' mentioned AT ALL.
See a pattern?
Easy now... No reason to go full Mr Master here.
The question is: how does any of what you posted preclude the notion that mainstream Beyonder was able to introduce himself into the GotG timeline? Because it seems like that's exactly what he did to me:
I say again: canonicity has never been dictated exclusively by whether or not an event is referenced in a bio. Have you any better evidence to counter with?
Originally posted by Galan007
Easy now... No reason to go full Mr Master here.The question is: how does any of what you posted preclude the notion that mainstream Beyonder was able to introduce himself into the GotG timeline? Because it seems like that's exactly what he did to me:
I say again: canonicity has never been dictated exclusively by whether or not an event is referenced in a bio. Have you any better evidence to counter with?
C'mon zop, even is mentioned that Beyonder passing throught the Scar of Eternity: