😐 ...
Reported for trolling my name fallaciously.
Your ridiculous notion was drivelled in the prior page,
but to induct this gibberish again, calls for Mod action.
I also want Bada to compare my ip address with those other kids,
and see if he can prove I'm debatng on 5 separate CPUs. That will settle that.
I mean, are you phukin kidding me? Damn, what a sore losing hater.
Oh my god, it is impossible to post with differen't ips! You must be a hacker! 😄
I don't hate you, I just laugh at your comedy show here. And all just because you are wrong and can't force your opinion upon others....
Originally posted by Mr Master
😐 ...Reported for trolling my name fallaciously.
Report your socks too^^.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeReport your socks too^^.
Wolverine vs, Dr Fate vs, Spiderman vs, Captain America vs, DC comics related shit VS ka-dur
Everone knows Mr Master debates street level or meta level cats LOL, oh and DC of course. LOL!
Damn son, talk about postng out of your ass.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I also want Bada to compare my ip address with those other kids,
and see if he can prove I'm debatng on 5 separate CPUs. That will settle that.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, anyone is free to go check out "unknowable's" VS threads, 😂 (kid who joined the year before me)
yea, that's obviously me:Wolverine vs, Dr Fate vs, Spiderman vs, Captain America vs, DC comics related shit VS ka-dur
Everone knows Mr Master debates street level or meta level cats LOL, oh and DC of course. LOL!
Damn son, talk about postng out of your ass.
... And, reported again.
You are getting extremeley defensive, but to each his own^^. Good luck with your farce. ^^
I am done 😉.
^^ "defensive" My culo.
You just feel real stupid right about now when you checked unknowable's VS threads.
Now you know that can't possibly be me and your foot doesn't taste good.
You probably inquired about Killemall at comicvine and ouch, double whammy.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeOh my god, it is impossible to post with differen't ips! You must be a hacker!
Glad to know you know better, yet, I'm the socker. 🙂
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeI just laugh at your comedy show here.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbeAnd all just because you are wrong and can't force your opinion upon others....
Also, it's not my opinion.
It's actually the opinion of the Head Writer of all the Marvel Handbooks,
and Three (of the 4) Writers from the DC vs Marvel mini,
plus the Executive Editor of DC at the time.
Hey you know, perhaps you're right, who are you again?
And they're wrong: The guy that works for Marvel, who's also the head handbook writer,
the 3 DC vs Marvel writers,
and the DC executive editor.
Yea, that might be it. crazy
... not to mention that they're not elaborating out of their asses
since we did SEE both BrotherS in the X-Men story and the Spectre allusion.
^Spectre never appeared there because they didn't had the right to have im in a Marvel book, first lie.
Second lie, the DC Brother and the DC Verse are not in that book, because DC is not an Megaverse in the Marvel Omniverse, a simple fact that can't be seperated from the others.
Third lie, just because people work for differen't companies doesn't mean they represent a whole company just because they do creative work for others, DC is independent of the writers/artists, they change, only the DC logo makes something DC related official.
Simple, you can't handle logic and such an simple truth? Not my problem, but don't act like you decide what is canon and what isn't you have no authority, you are just an unknown fanboy on a comic board whose opinion doesn't mean anything to the people at DC. Accept it and don't try to make yourself bigger than you are. Simple advice.
^^ blah
Your unsupported opinion vs reality, which was explained in depth by:
Jeff Christiansen (who works for Marvel Comics & is Marvel's Head Handbook Writer)
Ron Marz ... Dan Jurgens ... Claudio Castellini (Writers/Artists of the actual DC vs Marvel books)
Mike Carlin ... Executive Editor of DC at the time.
Sorry homie, when you post your Marvel and/or DC credentials and we can verify it,
your word next to these Marvel and DC employees/vetarans is moot.
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ blahYour unsupported opinion vs reality, which was explained in depth by:
Jeff Christiansen (who works for Marvel Comics & is Marvel's Head Handbook Writer)
Ron Marz ... Dan Jurgens ... Claudio Castellini (Writers/Artists of the actual DC vs Marvel books)
Mike Carlin ... Executive Editor of DC at the time.
Sorry homie, when you post your Marvel and/or DC credentials and we can verify it,
your word next to these Marvel and DC employees/vetarans is moot.
This is hypocritical in my opinion, as you have openly stated that you value your opinion which is based upon your subjective interpretation of comics over that of a statement put forth by a Marvel employee regarding certain events in Marvel. If you are going to place the interpretations of Marvel employees above that of a random internet forum user, then do so consistently and objectively rather than picking which you want to accept.
Furthermore, Marvel has no legal or conceptual right to use DC characters in their comics without the permission of DC. The bios as well as the comics that occurred after the non canon crossover were not acknowledged, sanctioned, or allowed by DC or their parent company.
It is merely your subjective opinion that is stating it is DC's spectre, and that Marvel holds the DC company with in. Purely your own subjective opinion.
^He is a Hypocrit, with some megalomaniac tendencies^^.
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ blahYour unsupported opinion vs reality, which was explained in depth by:
Jeff Christiansen (who works for Marvel Comics & is Marvel's Head Handbook Writer)
Ron Marz ... Dan Jurgens ... Claudio Castellini (Writers/Artists of the actual DC vs Marvel books)
Mike Carlin ... Executive Editor of DC at the time.
Sorry homie, when you post your Marvel and/or DC credentials and we can verify it,
your word next to these Marvel and DC employees/vetarans is moot.
My opinion is supported by the lack of the DC logo and hence DC accepting it in their DC Verse. Also the lack of Spectre and the writer not even daring to write his name.
Your opinion is just based on wishful thinking and people who switch their workplaces regularly....
Seriously. dur
^^ Reported again! Darn, I forgot to put you on ignore.
At this point you're like a channel in the way of my surfing joys. I gotta block that.
Originally posted by Board WalkerThis is hypocritical in my opinion, as you have openly stated that you value your opinion which is based upon your subjective interpretation of comics over that of a statement put forth by a Marvel employee regarding certain events in Marvel.
Which is why I used On Panel evidence to make my point,
and then I used the handbooks to solidify said point.
Also, this isn't just some employee,
it's the freakin Writers/Creators of the Brothers, and DC vs Marvel,
it's also Jeff Christiansen, who still currently works for Marvel, and is the Head Handbook writer.
Heck, writers come to Jeff seeking advice concerning continuity. He's a genuis at this.
Marvel Handbooks direct us to his (Jeff's) site for Data Corrections and further details.
That aside, my interpretation is exactly the same as theirs, so there's no hypocracy here,
and my opinion measures the same value as when I made the statement you recalled.
Originally posted by Board WalkerIf you are going to place the interpretations of Marvel employees above that of a random internet forum user, then do so consistently and objectively rather than picking which you want to accept.
Originally posted by Mr MasterJust stop. I'm banning the other accounts soon.
^^ Wow, all this back to back love for ol' Mr Mastah, ... were yall just standing by awaiting your moment? lol.
Sincerely thanx yall. 🙂
While I appreciate the recognition friends,
don't yall believe for one moment it will divert the intransigence I'm dealing with here.
So take my advice and do what I decided to do last night,
just ignore the obtuse consistancy, which means the thread is dead.
There really isn't anymore to say anyway, the evidence I presented can't be countered so ... peace and love yall.I have no doubt a return of more unsupported personal theories,
senseless speculations and outright fallacies is imminent.So, I'm done.
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ Reported again! Darn, I forgot to put you on ignore.
At this point you're like a channel in the way of my surfing joys. I gotta block that.I agree.
Which is why I used On Panel evidence to make my point,
and then I used the handbooks to solidify said point.Also, this isn't just some employee,
it's the freakin Writers/Creators of the Brothers, and DC vs Marvel,
it's also Jeff Christiansen, who still currently works for Marvel, and is the Head Handbook writer.
Heck, writers come to Jeff seeking advice concerning continuity. He's a genuis at this.
Marvel Handbooks direct us to his (Jeff's) site for Data Corrections and further details.That aside, my interpretation is exactly the same as theirs, so there's no hypocracy here,
and my opinion measures the same value as when I made the statement you recalled.Actually, think about what you're gonna post before it turns out to be gobbledygook like here.
Marvel has no claim over DC, nor are they able to use any of their IP's without their legal permission. Marvel legally cannot create an IP and claim it is a creation of DC's, this means that the Marvel Brothers are purely a Marvel creation which have no meaning in the DC IP inventory.
Marvel can make them look similar, can make them sound similar, and even name them "The Brothers" because that name likely falls in the public domain of copyright laws. Furthermore they are two humanoid entities where one is red, and the other is blue which again likely falls in public domain as they are too general in appearance to copyright. Point being that the Brothers are purely a Marvel creation and nothing more, the crossover is non canon and not acknowledge by DC which means the "brothers" from it do not exist in terms of mutually acknowledged continuity.
Your opinion is purely your own, it is not the same as that held by Marvel or by DC. You likely to imagine that your opinion as well as your SUBJECTIVE interpretations are the same as Marvel or DC so that you can assign validation to them, and use this as a means of justification to value your opinion over that of others. All you are doing is creating your own psychological construct that allows you raise the value of your opinion over another.
Originally posted by Board WalkerMarvel has no claim over DC, nor are they able to use any of their IP's without their legal permission. Marvel legally cannot create an IP and claim it is a creation of DC's, this means that the Marvel Brothers are purely a Marvel creation which have no meaning in the DC IP inventory.
I never claimed Marvel had any rights over DC.
I always indicated that DC played a part too since Mike Carlin helped write it.
I do agree with you, that this whole thing is meaningless on the DC side btw.
It's more like an "off-panel" event for DC if you ask me. (still dumb I agree)
Originally posted by Mr Master
I figured I'd reply to you thoroughly since you thought this out.
I'm also going to break it down cause it seems my stance gets lost in big posts.I never claimed Marvel had any rights over DC.
I always indicated that DC played a part too since Mike Carlin helped write it.
I do agree with you, that this whole thing is meaningless on the DC side btw.
It's more like an "off-panel" event for DC if you ask me. (still dumb I agree)
This makes much more sense, okay I understand your interpretation now.
My point is that the brothers may be megaverses within the Marvel company (but since all of Marvel is a singular Omniverse/Megaverse I don't see how this is likely true), but that one of them does not represent DC. That is the only point I'm trying to make here, that even post of the non canon crossover, both of those brothers are Marvel megaverses and not Marvel+Dc.
Originally posted by Board WalkerMarvel can make them look similar, can make them sound similar, and even name them "The Brothers" because that name likely falls in the public domain of copyright laws. Furthermore they are two humanoid entities where one is red, and the other is blue which again likely falls in public domain as they are too general in appearance to copyright. Point being that the Brothers are purely a Marvel creation and nothing more, the crossover is non canon and not acknowledge by DC which means the "brothers" from it do not exist in terms of mutually acknowledged continuity
Imo, while I agree with my point, it still leaves me with questions.
Like I can't understand why they did this, and left it in obscurity?
I could say they just dismissed the whole idea shortly after publishing it in 97',
but then why go ahead and recall the key event of the story in the LT's 06' bio, you feel me?
It's like, did it happen, or didn't it, and if it did, what the hell are these two "megaverses" ...
why only Two if it's just Marvel?
If it's just Marvel why are they never referenced, ever, in a cosmic hierarchy setting?
Furthermore, if it's just Marvel, who the heck is this "spectral ally" in LT's camp?
So, you see B W, I know I'm on the right side of things but it's still incomplete.
Originally posted by Board WalkerYour opinion is purely your own, it is not the same as that held by Marvel or by DC. You likely to imagine that your opinion as well as your SUBJECTIVE interpretations are the same as Marvel or DC so that you can assign validation to them, and use this as a means of justification to value your opinion over that of others. All you are doing is creating your own psychological construct that allows you raise the value of your opinion over another.
That encapsulation of my posts you just rendered should really be focused on the other gents in this thread.
I posted on panel scans plus a mammoth amount of secondary official endorsers of the same idea.
Originally posted by Board WalkerThis makes much more sense, okay I understand your interpretation now.
Originally posted by Board WalkerMy point is that the brothers may be megaverses within the Marvel company (but since all of Marvel is a singular Omniverse/Megaverse I don't see how this is likely true)
That's the crux of the matter.
I already stated that if there is a "Marvel Brother" ... it's all of Marvel, just like before.
In the X-Men story, whoever they were (putting my point aside for a sec)
they were portrayed as the "Beginning and End" ... reads pretty "final" to me.
Which is also why it doesn't make sense if it's just Marvel.
Originally posted by Board Walkerbut that one of them does not represent DC. That is the only point I'm trying to make here, that even post of the non canon crossover, both of those brothers are Marvel megaverses and not Marvel+Dc.
So, there is no question that at the story's inception, the Brothers depicted were DC and Marvel.
Come to think of it, while I know that's true, I don't see the point of it.
I don't see the point of this detail jammed into the X-Men story.
I suppose it's because the Mkraan Crystal blew up, cool, but why would this affect DC?
Nonsense. It was the idea I guess, but nonsese.