Originally posted by carthage
That was a ritual and no it wasn't Banes best feat. Bane's best dueling feat is beating a Sith schoolchild and breaking boxes, tents, and some random Sith's spine.
What Bane did (absorbing the lightning and then redirecting it) wasn't a product of the ritual, it was a component of the ritual, and a component that didn't benefit from any aids typically associated with a ritual. Yes the destruction on the planet as a whole was the product of a ritual, but the ability required to absorb the lightning and redirect it was all Bane's.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I said if he wins, not that he does. But how do you suggest Bane'll handle Krayt's dual saber style?
Bane's improved drastically since then, would presumably have ironed out such a weakness, and Krayt, as far as technical proficiency goes, is no Kas'im. What people often forget is that it wasn't simply Jar'Kai that Bane was defeated by, it was Kas'im's command of Jar'Kai.
Originally posted by appletonia
Bane's improved drastically since then, would presumably have ironed out such a weakness, and Krayt, as far as technical proficiency goes, is no Kas'im. What people often forget is that it wasn't simply Jar'Kai that Bane was defeated by, it was Kas'im's command of Jar'Kai.
"Presumably" being the key word. I find it likely he did, although I question where exactly Bane could acquire teaching in dual saber style after the collapse of the Sith. And Bane was flummoxed by Kas'im's use of Jar'Kai because he didn't know how to defend against it, not because of Kas'im's skill in it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
"Presumably" being the key word. I find it likely he did, although I question where exactly Bane could acquire teaching in dual saber style after the collapse of the Sith.
He's fought a Jar'kai user since, and even though Raskta was running circles around him, through sheer ommision alone the implication is that he was no longer vulnerable to the style itself. He was also able to teach Zannah Soresu, when as of POD he didn't even practise the form, much less be in a position to teach it. We know he spent a lot of time gathering knowledge, and it would seem that they weren't without access to resources that would enable them to progress in their knowledge of lightsaber combat.
And Bane was flummoxed by Kas'im's use of Jar'Kai because he didn't know how to defend against it, not because of Kas'im's skill in it.
It's made clear that he was overwhelmed by the sheer wealth of moves and combinations that Kas'im had access to, given how Kas'im's mastery of all seven forms and the number of moves he had at his disposal are directly referenced when Bane realises he couldn't win.
He's fought a Jar'kai user since, and even though Raskta was running circles around him, through sheer ommision alone the implication is that he was no longer vulnerable to the style itself. He was also able to teach Zannah Soresu, when as of POD he didn't even practise the form, much less be in a position to teach it.
He wasn't "invulnerable" to the style itself, he had a nexus amp and orbalisks to block it. He could afford to take damage from Raskta because of his armor, there is no evidence he has any counter to Jar kai as a whole. Not to mention Krayt is a vastly above Raskta as a duelist and more skilled than Bane as well. Soresu won't help him against a form he has no defense against normally, and Krayt is faster than he is.
We know he spent a lot of time gathering knowledge, and it would seem that they weren't without access to resources that would enable them to progress in their knowledge of lightsaber combat.
None of which translated to an increase in skill or beating anyone noteworthy
It's made clear that he was overwhelmed by the sheer wealth of moves and combinations that Kas'im had access to, given how Kas'im's mastery of all seven forms and the number of moves he had at his disposal are directly referenced when Bane realises he couldn't win.
Bane realized he couldn't win because he wasn't familiar with Jar kai, not because Kas'im was such a good duelist that he could outright kill him. Kas'im got driven back after all. Not that it matters because Krayt would stomp Kas'im with little effort as well
Originally posted by Stigma
I see what you mean, tbh.Yet taken to the extreme, by this logic there is no reason to do any versus matches here, as not only mediums differ but also authors' potrayal of the force in every other SW novel, comic, video game etc.
Anyways, Krayt wins this.
True to a point, the books are largely pretty consistent as are the comics within their respective mediums. However, I would just say you pretty much have to nerf comic feats across the board if you want to cross over to books. The comics are written in a sensationalized fashion, the books on the other hand are mostly written in an attempt at consistency and realism much more consistent with the original movies.