Originally posted by Nalaniel
Bane in a good fight.😆
lol u srs? Krayt had an intense duel with Kenobi that lasted several minutes, a Kenobi not far removed from his prime, a Kenobi who is above Bane in sabers. He solidly beat Cade in both duels he has with him while wanting him alive. He blitzes 4 of the Emperor's personal IK's while hindered by his sickness.
Bane beat trainee Sirak, lost the duel to Kas'im and didn't kill any of the Tython Strike team until PIS allowed Zannah to kill Sarro and then backstab Raskta. Krayt is a far better duelist than Bane. Not sure why you laughed, Bane isn't very good without his armor. Krayt slaughters him in sabers only.
Originally posted by carthageI remember you using an argument against Gnost saying that being amped doesn't increase the characters lightsaber skill.
Bane also had a nexus amp and the amp for his orbalisks when he fought the strike team.
*puts on his detective glasses* I can only conclude that your argument was kill by somesort of double standard
Originally posted by WildBantha88
I remember you using an argument against Gnost saying that being amped doesn't increase the characters lightsaber skill.*puts on his detective glasses* I can only conclude that your argument was kill by somesort of double standard
And Bane's lightsaber skill wasn't increased, he beat them due to the nexus amp for himself/orbalisk amp/orbalisk protection? What part of my post was contradicted by an earlier one? It's not a positive that Bane sucks and needs amps/nexuses in order to fight. You might want to take some reading comprehension courses.
Krayt blitzed 4 knights at once, dominated Cade, and took out Wyyrlok without a nexus amp. Bane couldn'tve replicated any of those feats unless he had orbalisk armor
Originally posted by FreshestSliceit says right in the book that bane was confident in letting his armor take the hits and just wasn't bothered to block strikes when he is wearing indestructible armor
Read the fight again, Bane was getting slashed all over the place. He had orbalisk to protect him. Bane honestly has no dueling feats that matter that aren't against Zannah or Kas'im, both of which Krayt is over.
Originally posted by WildBantha88
it says right in the book that bane was confident in letting his armor take the hits and just wasn't bothered to block strikes when he is wearing indestructible armor
He was still protected and had 2x an amp due to the Tython nexus/his orbalisks, again he didn't beat them by virtue of being more skilled. Bane doesn't have his orbalisks in this fight, and Krayt is faster and more skilled. Bane doesn't have the feats to stand against a duelist of Krayt's caliber, that's all he is saying.
Originally posted by carthagein a debate over lightsaber skill you are saying "banes lightsaber skill sucks because he was amped" when you previously said "being amped has no effect on lightsaber skill" #double standard
And Bane's lightsaber skill wasn't increased, he beat them due to the nexus amp for himself/orbalisk amp/orbalisk protection? What part of my post was contradicted by an earlier one? It's not a positive that Bane sucks and needs amps/nexuses in order to fight. You might want to take some reading comprehension courses.Krayt blitzed 4 knights at once, dominated Cade, and took out Wyyrlok without a nexus amp. Bane couldn'tve replicated any of those feats unless he had orbalisk armor
Now, the fact that you chose to consider this battle in order to establish banes lightsaber skill makes almost no sense since bane knew he was wearing lightsaber proof armor and just let the opponents wail on him. Kas'im or Zannahs duels are far better choices but troll both those characters so trying to convince you that Bane is skilled would be like trying to explain politics to a 3 year old
Originally posted by WildBantha88
in a debate over lightsaber skill you are saying "banes lightsaber skill sucks because he was amped" when you previously said "being amped has no effect on lightsaber skill" #double standardNow, the fact that you chose to consider this battle in order to establish banes lightsaber skill makes almost no sense since bane knew he was wearing lightsaber proof armor and just let the opponents wail on him. Kas'im or Zannahs duels are far better choices but troll both those characters so trying to convince you that Bane is skilled would be like trying to explain politics to a 3 year old
Except my post isn't being contradicted in any sort, Bane's lightsaber skills weren't affected by the amp he beat them because he was encased in armor/protected by the orbalisks/and was using his force abilities as well. Obviously none of that is applicable in this fight. Bane's sole showings by virtue of his own skill are beating Sirak, Fohargh, and fighting evenly with Zannah. Try to understand this instead of deflecting my points.
Bane's skill prior to the orbalisk armor was still inferior to Krayt's, Sirak and Fohargh are inferior opponents to Cade, Wyyrlok, holding his own against Kenobi. Bane was amped when he fought Kas'im and he only beat him by killing him with nexus energy.
You keep bringing up factors that have nothing to do with a pure saber duel between these two. Bane doesn't have the Lehon nexus amp here, his opponents are inferior to Cade/Wyyrlok, and he is much slower than Krayt.
He loses
Originally posted by carthagelol. Why are you trying to pin this on me? YOU were the one who brought up Bane being amped as if amps have any bearing on a lightsaber duel. YOU were the one that brought up his fight on Tython even though Orbalisk Bane fights much differently than unarmored Bane. And here you are still bringing up amps like they even matter.
Except my post isn't being contradicted in any sort, Bane's lightsaber skills weren't affected by the amp he beat them because he was encased in armor/protected by the orbalisks/and was using his force abilities as well. Obviously none of that is applicable in this fight. Bane's sole showings by virtue of his own skill are beating Sirak, Fohargh, and fighting evenly with Zannah. Try to understand this instead of deflecting my points.Bane's skill prior to the orbalisk armor was still inferior to Krayt's, Sirak and Fohargh are inferior opponents to Cade, Wyyrlok, holding his own against Kenobi. Bane was amped when he fought Kas'im and he only beat him by killing him with nexus energy.
You keep bringing up factors that have nothing to do with a pure saber duel between these two. Bane doesn't have the Lehon nexus amp here, his opponents are inferior to Cade/Wyyrlok, and he is much slower than Krayt.
He loses
1. Kas'im was equelly as amped as Bane so their amps are both negligable.
2.Bane was beating Kas'im before the latter busted out jar'kai, something Bane never saw before. So Kas'im kicked Banes ass afterwards, so what? Kas'im was feeding on a weakness that he had implanted into Bane. And afterwards Bane made up for that weakness.
3. Bane was not fighting evenly with Zannah, she was loosing that fight.
All you have ever done is try vigorously to under cut Bane, but at some point you need to wake up and realize that Bane is a lot better than you want to admit
Bantha I know you have trouble with reading comprehension, so let me surmise it with my own quote. Who cares if Bane fights "Differently" than Orbalisk Bane, Krayt has superior showings to Bane's so-so unless Bane's "different"fighting style caused him to beat someone superior, it doesn't matter
He was still protected and had 2x an amp due to the Tython nexus/his orbalisks, again he didn't beat them by virtue of being more skilled.
Not how I already delineated in my example the fact you can't seem to get your mind around. Now let me break it down even further for you since you can't seem to understand that even before the orbalisks Bane's dueling ability was inferior to Krayt's:
Bane's sole showings by virtue of his own skill are beating Sirak, Fohargh, and fighting evenly with Zannah
Let me reiterate that not only is Kas'im featless, but he didn't beat him by virtue of his own skill. He used a nexus amp to dispatch him, can you please tell me what that has to do with his duel? Kas'im likewise has no feats to compare with Cade, Wyyrlok, and Krayt's blitzing of the knights is more impressive than Bane not being killed due to Kas'im's Jar kai advantage. Bane in DoE has no dueling feats to compare either, Zannah has beaten no one of note.
2.Bane was beating Kas'im before the latter busted out jar'kai, something Bane never saw before. So Kas'im kicked Banes ass afterwards, so what? Kas'im was feeding on a weakness that he had implanted into Bane. And afterwards Bane made up for that weakness.
He wasn't beating him they were roughly fightly evenly, until he pulled out his other saber. Who cares Kas'im has no feats that put him above Cade, Wyyrlok, or Krayt's feat of blitzing knights. Also Bane was amped considerably when he fought him, as well as knew his style through constant sparring, Bane has none of those advantages here.
3. Bane was not fighting evenly with Zannah, she was loosing that fight.
Zannah has no feats that put her above Cade or Krayt as a duelist. Whether or not he was gaining advantage over a duelist who has only beaten a featless half-trained Jedi knight doesn't put her above Krayt. Krayt is faster and more skilled than Zannah