Satele Shan vs. Obi Wan ROTS

Originally posted by ILS
Oh cry me a river. The guy prances around in every thread trying to catch people out

"yeh u mad" a few times before leaving. Not only is he a troll, he's an exceptionally shite one.

I did that like three times (prior to tonight) so I honestly don't understand what's going on but I'm actually very amused. Ant once called me out on it but I can at least understand his rationale then.

Did carthage wake his boyfriend up so you can get angry together?

Accuses someone of being mad=drags on thread onto third page

Have fun being on ignore, bro.

Originally posted by ILS
Have fun being on ignore, bro.

Ironically the coolest end to this is also the most reactionary.

Now THIS guy can troll. How are you?

The idea that Kolar can demolish Satele in sabers is hilarious. She's got the strength, speed, power and skill to go toe to toe with him and probably win.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The idea that Kolar can demolish Satele in sabers is hilarious. She's got the strength, speed, power and skill to go toe to toe with him and probably win.

He would win in roughly the same time he defeated Quinlan Vos. Within a page.

Satele > Vos. The man is basically fodder.

Originally posted by ILS
I'd love to hear why.

Didn't I just say why? Would you like me to just list her feats?

Strength: She held off Malgus with one hand and he couldn't overpower her in a direct physical contest.

Speed: Blitz'd Sith Warriors, killed 3 Sith instantly after she blasted them into the air, kept up with Malgus in speed and Eldon Ax, somebody who has swung her blade like a propeller, remarks that Shan's speed is unbelievable.

Power: Blew apart or crushed Hex droids, shattered blast door, palmed a lightsaber, implicitly more powerful than a Jedi who collapsed two buildings with TK.

Skill: Fodderised elite Sith Warriors, her fights with Malgus, said to be so skilled that violence seemed like life itself to her.

Eh, to be fair her speed is beyond Vos'. I was probably being hasty with my initial assessment but traits like her strength or skill don't go against my argument. Vos obviously isn't fodder for Satele in a duel, that's nonsense.

Kolar would defeat her in a duel, though. Skill is by far more important than physical stats when there isn't much of a disparity there. She'd hold her own better than Vos, perhaps.. but she would still lose, he's just substantially more skilled than her. Going by accolades or feats.

Power is a very important stat too, remember. Vos seems to be fodder to a lot of people. He sucks in general.

I disagree on both your points. Satele being faster, stronger and more powerful is a more important factor than Kolar's skill. Which I disagree is substantially greater than hers, or greater at all really. That Obi-Wan thought him one of the best duelists ever isn't that great.

Well, respectfully, I kind of doubt you're open-minded enough to be convinced that Quinlan Vos is anything more than fodder or that a member of the "B-Team" is actually good at something, so we can agree to disagree if you want.

That I think combatants like Malgus and Satele are above them does mean I don't think they're good. Just not as good as you think they are. Perhaps you overestimate them.

I overestimated Kolar somewhat in this thread but I think it's safe to say you are also guilty of overestimating characters.... particularly ones you enjoy that are put in threads with characters you appear to loathe.

Such as?

And considering you claimed Kolar would demolish her, I'm hardly the only one being close-minded about combatants being good. She's pretty good too.

Hmmmmm... Bane? Zannah? Any TOR character when it comes to dueling skill debates with PT characters?

If I really was as closed-minded as you I never would have conceded that I overstated his abilities. You can go for pages fruitlessly arguing in favour of your favourites.

I meant who do I loath? :U

Ok, maybe that was unfair. Sorry.

Originally posted by ILS
Hmmmmm... Bane? Zannah? Any TOR character when it comes to dueling skill debates with PT characters?

If I really was as closed-minded as you I never would have conceded that I overstated his abilities. You can go for pages fruitlessly arguing in favour of your favourites.

He can go on for pages losing. Look up any debate with Tempest or Sidious66 to see what I mean