Thor Vs Orion

Originally posted by Stoic
Not nearly as many as Thor has been in. Orion has Darkseid to raise his stock. Thor has Galactus, Ego, Celestials, Glory, Mangog, The entire Masters of Evil, Gladiator, Perrikus... etc. Anyone thinking that Orion would walk in and beat the mess out of Thor are kidding themselves. On the other hand I don't believe that Thor would do more than stalemate against Orion based on his feats.

This 7/10 thing simply wouldn't happen. i think a battle between the two would be as close a match as Superman vs DOS Doomsday.

Doesn't matter, because he's already proven he can take beings in a higher tier. Same as any top tier and has LESS low showings than Thor, so it evens out.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Doesn't matter, because he's already proven he can take beings in a higher tier. Same as any top tier and has LESS low showings than Thor, so it evens out.

Yup like this low showing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4140245-6159386898-Thano.jpg

Lol that sh*ts hilarious...who wrote that

Originally posted by thingy150
Okay all i see is you claiming things, how does that further the thread. Me using orion beating superman is not "completely different" it is showing orions power lvl. You saying "hulk actually does have good speed feats" does nothing, you have shown nothing and all you are doing is claiming something with nothing to back up that said claim. Orion is too versatile and fast for the hulk so dont even try and say that he would lose to him. Again you are just randomly claiming things, just saying that thor is better does nothing to further this thread or conversation. The way you further a debate is with evidence and facts(feats) which i have provided and you have done nothing to counter. If you want to make an argument do that don't just proclaim someone better, that's not how you win a debate.

It is because Superman does not somehow translate into Thor. They both have different power sets. Thor can do things that Superman can not do, and vice verse. You posted a bunch of feats for Orion. If you want to see some of Thor's feats go to his respect section. The scans that you posted don't somehow make Orion Thor's superior. Versatility does not mean that another character wins because of it. If it did, all of the characters that the Hulk has beaten should have wiped the floor with him. Versatility does not mean win. Orion loves to slug it out. This would not work in his favor against a character like the Hulk. If versatility meant everything Doomsday should have gotten destroyed by Superman, and Darkseid, but this didn't happen.

Originally posted by thingy150
Yup like this low showing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4140245-6159386898-Thano.jpg

Lol that sh*ts hilarious...who wrote that

LOL! I can see Chris Tucker saying, "You got knocked the f** out!"

Originally posted by thingy150
Yup like this low showing

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138490/4140245-6159386898-Thano.jpg

Lol that sh*ts hilarious...who wrote that

Are you slow? Thor was unprepared to be attacked by the Hulk in that scene. Orion would have taken a dive as well. It's not as if the Hulk is a light weight.

Originally posted by Stoic
Are you slow? Thor was unprepared to be attacked by the Hulk in that scene. Orion would have taken a dive as well. It's not as if the Hulk is a light weight.

He should have used his super speed. 😂

Originally posted by Golgo13
He should have used his super speed. 😂

Defending that scene is pointless. Let's consider all of the times that a prepared Thor has fought evenly with the Hulk. that scan was a cheap low ball attempt.

Originally posted by Stoic
It is because Superman does not somehow translate into Thor. They both have different power sets. Thor can do things that Superman can not do, and vice verse. You posted a bunch of feats for Orion. If you want to see some of Thor's feats go to his respect section. The scans that you posted don't somehow make Orion Thor's superior. Versatility does not mean that another character wins because of it. If it did, all of the characters that the Hulk has beaten should have wiped the floor with him. Versatility does not mean win. Orion loves to slug it out. This would not work in his favor against a character like the Hulk. If versatility meant everything Doomsday should have gotten destroyed by Superman, and Darkseid, but this didn't happen.

It does not matter if they have different power sets, orion one shotted a person with the durability of superman, how is that hard for you to understand? Orion does not always slug it out what are you talking about? He actually fights quite smart, he uses his tech very well. I never said that versatility meant a character won but orions versatility is why he beats hulk. Do you not understand how to debate? When you debate you use facts to back up your argument, those facts being the feats o used to back up mine. Your argument holds no weight because it is just you rambling and speculating, feats add validity to an argument and if you do not understand this you should not be debating. Your doomsday reference means nothing because i did not say that versatility means that people beat each other, i said that orion beats hulk due to his versatility. That being he is faster, can fly, has more damage output, is more durable. "Versatility does not mean the win" again i never said it did, but in my opinion it does in the case of hulk vs orion. You tried to use hulk as a speed feat for thor, that simply does not work because hulk is not very fast, he does not have any speed feats to contend with the likes of orion. Learn some debate tactics.

Originally posted by Stoic
Defending that scene is pointless. Let's consider all of the times that a prepared Thor has fought evenly with the Hulk. that scan was a cheap low ball attempt.

Well, at least we agree on the fight. It's pretty much a toss up.

Originally posted by Stoic
Defending that scene is pointless. Let's consider all of the times that a prepared Thor has fought evenly with the Hulk. that scan was a cheap low ball attempt.

It does not matter if he fought evenly with hulk, if that is your speed feat then my retort is that orion fought evenly with superman. Your argument just got crushed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Are you slow? Thor was unprepared to be attacked by the Hulk in that scene. Orion would have taken a dive as well. It's not as if the Hulk is a light weight.

Lol he got one shotted by the hulk, that was the point of that scene.

(edit) lol that hit would not even come close to doing anything to orion.

Right because an unsuspecting Orion is invincible. I realize that you want to keep this stalemate floating, but you have no proof that Orion would beat Thor. Thor has feats to counter every scan that you posted.

Of course he can beat Thor. He's in the same tier, with an uber energy attack and Mother Box. He's just as versatile with the MB. Stop being silly.

Originally posted by Stoic
Right because an unsuspecting Orion is invincible. I realize that you want to keep this stalemate floating, but you have no proof that Orion would beat Thor. Thor has feats to counter every scan that you posted.

Haha, just you talking some more, you have yet to do anything to prove your claims. An unsuspecting orion who has tanked shots from superman, darkseid, kalibak and first born.....hulk will not even come close to one shotting him(and there is the part where hulk would not even be able to hit him even if he did not suspect it)

It does not matter if he has feats to counter every scan i have posted(even tho he cant counter orion 1 shotting superman) you have yet to show scans of him doing anything.

You saying thor can beat him and you saying that he has scans does literally nothing, you have not even made an argument you have just proclaimed thor the winner without backing up anything. People could make a good argument for thor, sadly you have not done anything to further your point or thor winning.

Here you go. Have fun.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t451734.html

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t369118.html

Posting a respect thread does literally nothing, if you named feats and stated your source that would be better but i am not going to dig through the respect thread. Your argument is still moot.

Originally posted by thingy150
You saying thor can beat him and you saying that he has scans does literally nothing, you have not even made an argument you have just proclaimed thor the winner without backing up anything. People could make a good argument for thor, sadly you have not done anything to further your point or thor winning.

I said stalemate do you know what that means? It doesn't mean that one of them is going to beat the other. Is there something that got knocked loose up there?

Originally posted by thingy150
Posting a respect thread does literally nothing, if you named feats and stated your source that would be better but i am not going to dig through the respect thread. Your argument is still moot.

Wrong i said that for every scan that you put up, there is one from thor to overturn it. you not being willing to sift through his respect thread is on you. Not my problem.

Originally posted by thingy150
Posting a respect thread does literally nothing, if you named feats and stated your source that would be better but i am not going to dig through the respect thread. Your argument is still moot.

Agreed.