Thor Vs Orion

Started by thingy15023 pages

Are you that slow that you dont know how arguing works. I used scans of orion actually doing something that could very likely change the outcome of this fight. I showed what orion could do with his astro force i showed him fighting H2H and i showed his force fields. Every single one of my scans furthered my argument and all of them had to do with this fight because they are orion feats that show what he can do. Orion has one shotted beings much more durable than thor, he is faster, he has better reaction time and he has a weapon that can destroy planets. You mocking me by giving me a respect thread is just plain stupid, you are saying that using scans does not further the thread is plain ignorant and chlidish. Just because you do not have the wits to put up scans yourself does not mean you have to whine like a child.

Originally posted by thingy150
Are you that slow that you dont know how arguing works. I used scans of orion actually doing something that could very likely change the outcome of this fight. I showed what orion could do with his astro force i showed him fighting H2H and i showed his force fields. Every single one of my scans furthered my argument and all of them had to do with this fight because they are orion feats that show what he can do. Orion has one shotted beings much more durable than thor, he is faster, he has better reaction time and he has a weapon that can destroy planets. You mocking me by giving me a respect thread is just plain stupid, you are saying that using scans does not further the thread is plain ignorant and chlidish. Just because you do not have the wits to put up scans yourself does not mean you have to whine like a child.

Thor can destroy planets, Thor defeated Glory, Thor has a weapon that contained enough power to level a galaxy, Thor has taken out the Destroyer, Thor has had it out with Perrikus, Thor has shattered Galactus' armor, Thor has gone up against and stalemated the Mindless Hulk who took on Hercules, Doc Samson, Iron Man, Wonder Man, Namor and the entire Avengers, Thor has the power to negate Cytorraks enchantments, Thor has taken out Gladiator who is actually faster than Orion. So yeah for every scan that you posted Thor has feats to overturn them. Are you getting it yet? You have no proof that Orion would beat Thor whereas Thor has so many feats that you could not begin to launch a feat war against him using Orion's feats. You keep talking about Orion's tech, but seem to forget that Thor has a game changer called Mjolnir, and can whip up planetary level storms with or without it. Thor can also go into Warrior madness that amplifies his stats 10 fold.

What you want for people to say is that Orion would roll over Thor, but unfortunately for you that just won't happen. Instead you post an unsuspecting Thor being cheap shotted by a guy that can fold Adamantium, and try to play it off like it wouldn't have done anything to Orion, because your version of Orion is invincible despite having recently been KTFO.

Did Thor defeat Glory on his own power?

Orion matched and contained universal destroying energies with the Astro Force.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor can destroy planets, Thor defeated Glory, Thor has a weapon that contained enough power to level a galaxy, Thor has taken out the Destroyer, Thor has had it out with Perrikus, Thor has shattered Galactus' armor, Thor has gone up and stalemated the Mindless Hulk who took on Hercules, Doc Samson, Iron Man, Wonder Man, and the entire Avengers, Thor has the power to negate Cytorraks enchantments, Thor has taken out Gladiator who is actually faster than Orion. So yeah for every scan that you posted Thor has feats to overturn them. Are you getting it yet? You have no proof that Orion would beat Thor whereas Thor has so many feats that you could not begin to launch a feat war against him using Orion's feats. You keep talking about Orion's tech, but seem to forget that Thor has a game changer called Mjolnir, and can whip up planetary level storms with or without it. Thor can also go into Warrior madness that amplifies his stats 10 fold.

What you want for people to say is that Orion would roll over Thor, but unfortunately for you that just won't happen. Instead you post an unsuspecting Thor being cheap shotted by a guy that can fold Adamantium, and try to play it off like it wouldn't have done anything to Orion, because your version of Orion is invincible despite having recently been KTFO.

"Thor has taken out Gladiator who is actually faster than Orion."

Gladiator is not faster than orion in reaction time, gladiator literally has almost zero reaction time feats. You have still yet to show how thor can match speed with orion. In my opinion the 1st round is much more even than the second but thor is still not as fast as orion. Thor is not even as fast as wolverine.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3575114-thor.jpg

How does thor harm someone he cannot touch? Superman is also much more durable than thor in my opinion and we all know what orion did to superman.

New 52 orion has taken hits from superman, superman who did this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137388/4038349-6191041776-LHftX.jpg

Along with MMH superman moved this ship and superman benched the earth for 5 days straight.

Orion took a huge amount of punches from superman and did not even flinch.

So tell me how does thor touch orion.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/85165/1768545-astro_2.jpg

Orions astro force can also stop attacks.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/pic005-1.jpg

If orion can do this to the faster and much more durable superman in 1 shot, he can take out thor.

Superman and Thor do not have the same resistances though. What may hurt Superman, may not do more than sting Thor when it comes to metaphysical forces. This is why I said that you can not really use Superman to disprove Thor. When was the last time Superman pulled an immortal's soul out of them? That's just an example. They don't have the same power set. Thor is actually more powerful than Superman in terms of what he can actually do with his powers. He isn't as durable or strong as Superman to regular attacks, or lifting feats, but neither is Orion.

Gladiator is so fast that Reed had to use a time dilation device to keep up with him. Who are you kidding? You saying that Gladiator does not have Orion's reaction feats is like me saying that Orion doesn't have the amount of appearances that Thor, Superman, or any other main character has. This does not somehow mean that he does not have greater reaction ability than Orion. If Orion went head to head with the Destroyer with Loki's soul animating it, he would be beaten just like Thor would be.

You claiming that Thor would not be able to touch Orion is disproved by his ability to beat Gladiator. If Wolverine was in a comic with Orion he would hit Orion as well, because that's what makes a comic worth reading. Thor would never have to be touched by Wolverine if you take the time to think about it. I have not said who would win, i have no proof that this wouldn't be more than a stalemate in either scenarios. You on the other hand have not proved that Orion would win, because like I said, Thor has feats to counter all of the scans that you presented. If you don't want to delve into his respect section to see this, that is on you. I just gave you a reason why I think that this would more than likely go down to a stalemate between them. You believe that Orion would win, but i have yet to see why.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Did Thor defeat Glory on his own power?

Orion matched and contained universal destroying energies with the Astro Force.

It was a plot win, but I used glory to show that Thor is resourceful enough to beat major odds. Glory was a gestalt of a pantheon 1000's of deities, and the realms that they lived in. Thor should have been wiped out in an instant, which goes to show just how tough he actually is. How would Orion have done?

Originally posted by thingy150
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/pic005-1.jpg

If orion can do this to the faster and much more durable superman in 1 shot, he can take out thor.

I'm not convinced. Thor has taken hits just like it, and came out fine. You don't seem to understand that what may effect Superman, may not have the same effect on Thor. Not sure why you aren't understanding that?

When has Superman ever been able to do this?

Originally posted by Child Rebel
Thor warps the universe to send Surtur and Ymir to an alternate dimension.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorelementals1.jpg
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Thor #387

Thor draws the magnetic energy from the core of the planet Pangoria to attack Exitar the celestial.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Superman and Thor do not have the same resistances though. What may hurt Superman, may not do more than sting Thor when it comes to metaphysical forces. This is why I said that you can not really use Superman to disprove Thor. When was the last time Superman pulled an immortal's soul out of them? That's just an example. They don't have the same power set. Thor is actually more powerful than Superman in terms of what he can actually do with his powers. He isn't as durable or strong as Superman to regular attacks, or lifting feats, but neither is Orion.

Gladiator is so fast that Reed had to use a time dilation device to keep up with him. Who are you kidding? You saying that Gladiator does not have Orion's reaction feats is like me saying that Orion doesn't have the amount of appearances that Thor, Superman, or any other main character has. This does not somehow mean that he does not have greater reaction ability than Orion. If Orion went head to head with the Destroyer with Loki's soul animating it, he would be beaten just like Thor would be.

You claiming that Thor would not be able to touch Orion is disproved by his ability to beat Gladiator. If Wolverine was in a comic with Orion he would hit Orion as well, because that's what makes a comic worth reading. Thor would never have to be touched by Wolverine if you take the time to think about it. I have not said who would win, i have no proof that this wouldn't be more than a stalemate in either scenarios. You on the other hand have not proved that Orion would win, because like I said, Thor has feats to counter all of the scans that you presented. If you don't want to delve into his respect section to see this, that is on you. I just gave you a reason why I think that this would more than likely go down to a stalemate between them. You believe that Orion would win, but i have yet to see why.

It was a plot win, but I used glory to show that Thor is resourceful enough to beat major odds. Glory was a gestalt of a pantheon 1000's of deities, and the realms that they lived in. Thor should have been wiped out in an instant, which goes to show just how tough he actually is. How would Orion have done?

So it wasn't under his own power then? Glory was above him.

So is Galactus

Originally posted by Child Rebel
Thor vs. Galactus

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst1.jpg
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Orion has had similar fights. The Ecruos for example. Outsmarted and used it's own power on him.

So, I still say split and orion edges him out in a HTH fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
Superman and Thor do not have the same resistances though. What may hurt Superman, may not do more than sting Thor when it comes to metaphysical forces. This is why I said that you can not really use Superman to disprove Thor. When was the last time Superman pulled an immortal's soul out of them? That's just an example. They don't have the same power set. Thor is actually more powerful than Superman in terms of what he can actually do with his powers. He isn't as durable or strong as Superman to regular attacks, or lifting feats, but neither is Orion.

Gladiator is so fast that Reed had to use a time dilation device to keep up with him. Who are you kidding? You saying that Gladiator does not have Orion's reaction feats is like me saying that Orion doesn't have the amount of appearances that Thor, Superman, or any other main character has. This does not somehow mean that he does not have greater reaction ability than Orion. If Orion went head to head with the Destroyer with Loki's soul animating it, he would be beaten just like Thor would be.

You claiming that Thor would not be able to touch Orion is disproved by his ability to beat Gladiator. If Wolverine was in a comic with Orion he would hit Orion as well, because that's what makes a comic worth reading. Thor would never have to be touched by Wolverine if you take the time to think about it. I have not said who would win, i have no proof that this wouldn't be more than a stalemate in either scenarios. You on the other hand have not proved that Orion would win, because like I said, Thor has feats to counter all of the scans that you presented. If you don't want to delve into his respect section to see this, that is on you. I just gave you a reason why I think that this would more than likely go down to a stalemate between them. You believe that Orion would win, but i have yet to see why.

It was a plot win, but I used glory to show that Thor is resourceful enough to beat major odds. Glory was a gestalt of a pantheon 1000's of deities, and the realms that they lived in. Thor should have been wiped out in an instant, which goes to show just how tough he actually is. How would Orion have done?

Lol really, your argument is that orions astro force might not hurt thor, is there any way you can prove this? What makes thor immune to the astro force huh? Because you said so, you are going to have to try harder.

"You claiming that thor would not be able to touch orion is disproved by his ability to beat gladiator"

Are you literate? I already disproved your theory, gladiator does not have any reaction feats to contend with orion, gladiator is fast but he does not have any reaction time feats. Thor is not even as fast as wolverine which i already showed so how is he going to keep up with orion? You completely ignored what i said in my post and now you are trying to say that the astro force would not affect thor(you never came up with a reason why).

Orion is faster, stronger, more durable and is more ruthless.

If orion can do this to darkseid: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67877/2412022-countdown2p19.jpg

darkseid who has literally back handed superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4068347-4025757-supermanconfidential08_19.jpg

and hit superman away with ease
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167975-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_031.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167976-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_032.jpg

Orion has tanked darkseids omega beams which have put down superman and lobo easily

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134477/2597451-NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg

Orion is faster and you have yet to pull up anything that proves otherwise and your gladiator speed feats have easily been disproven.

Thor takes on Arishem the Celestial.

Originally posted by Child Rebel
Thor vs. Arshiem the Celestial

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor30030le2.jpg
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Originally posted by thingy150
Lol really, your argument is that orions astro force might not hurt thor, is there any way you can prove this? What makes thor immune to the astro force huh? Because you said so, you are going to have to try harder.

"You claiming that thor would not be able to touch orion is disproved by his ability to beat gladiator"

Are you literate? I already disproved your theory, gladiator does not have any reaction feats to contend with orion, gladiator is fast but he does not have any reaction time feats. Thor is not even as fast as wolverine which i already showed so how is he going to keep up with orion? You completely ignored what i said in my post and now you are trying to say that the astro force would not affect thor(you never came up with a reason why).

Orion is faster, stronger, more durable and is more ruthless.

If orion can do this to darkseid: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67877/2412022-countdown2p19.jpg

darkseid who has literally back handed superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4068347-4025757-supermanconfidential08_19.jpg

and hit superman away with ease
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167975-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_031.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167976-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_032.jpg

Orion has tanked darkseids omega beams which have put down superman and lobo easily

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134477/2597451-NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg

Orion is faster and you have yet to pull up anything that proves otherwise and your gladiator speed feats have easily been disproven.

You should post his fight with The Ecruos.

DONG Orion was such a beastly showing. Batting away the JLA and OWNING Darkseid.

Even Simonson said Orion had the upper hand on Darkseid.

Originally posted by Stoic
So is Galactus

Lol classic thor and classic galactus are extremely different now, galactus is far above him and thor has gone down in power level. This is not classic thor, classic thor is extremely different then he is now.

Originally posted by Golgo13
You should post his fight with The Ecruos.

I will see if i can find it

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol really, your argument is that orions astro force might not hurt thor, is there any way you can prove this? What makes thor immune to the astro force huh? Because you said so, you are going to have to try harder.

"You claiming that thor would not be able to touch orion is disproved by his ability to beat gladiator"

Are you literate? I already disproved your theory, gladiator does not have any reaction feats to contend with orion, gladiator is fast but he does not have any reaction time feats. Thor is not even as fast as wolverine which i already showed so how is he going to keep up with orion? You completely ignored what i said in my post and now you are trying to say that the astro force would not affect thor(you never came up with a reason why).

Orion is faster, stronger, more durable and is more ruthless.

If orion can do this to darkseid: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67877/2412022-countdown2p19.jpg

darkseid who has literally back handed superman

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4068347-4025757-supermanconfidential08_19.jpg

and hit superman away with ease
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167975-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_031.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11113/111135095/4167976-cosmic_odyssey_tpb_032.jpg

Orion has tanked darkseids omega beams which have put down superman and lobo easily

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134477/2597451-NewGodsv3_08-21.jpg

Orion is faster and you have yet to pull up anything that proves otherwise and your gladiator speed feats have easily been disproven.

You sure that you want to get into a feat war? I can keep bringing out new one, while you will only be able to rehash ones that Orion has been through with Darkseid, who happens to be his biggest pay day. I'm not saying that the Astro Force would not hurt him, but it may not have the same effect on him as it would Superman. Thor has his own methods of mitigating damage. This is something that you may not be able to see. Superman does not have a nearly indestructible hammer. Why keep bringing him up? Oh because that's another one of the reasons that you believe that Orion wins this. On the other hand, Thor has dealt with characters more powerful than Darkseid or Superman, and is still around to tell the tale. Should we continue to go feat for feat? Thor has some pretty ridiculous ones in his respect section.

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol classic thor and classic galactus are extremely different now, galactus is far above him and thor has gone down in power level. This is not classic thor, classic thor is extremely different then he is now.

Marvel does not have a pre crisis era that erased everything of the past. Thor is still Thor, and he was actually stated to be more powerful than he was in the past after his resurrection.

Originally posted by Stoic
You sure that you want to get into a feat war? I can keep bringing out new one, while you will only be able to rehash ones that Orion has been through with Darkseid, who happens to be his biggest pay day. I'm not saying that the Astro Force would not hurt him, but it may not have the same effect on him as it would Superman. Thor has his own methods of mitigating damage. This is something that you may not be able to see. Superman does not have a nearly indestructible hammer. Why keep bringing him up? Oh because that's another one of the reasons that you believe that Orion wins this. On the other hand, Thor has dealt with characters more powerful than Darkseid or Superman, and is still around to tell the tale. Should we continue to go feat for feat? Thor has some pretty ridiculous ones in his respect section.

Of course Orion wouldn't win a feat war. He doesn't have as much appearances. You don't have to win a feat war to be on someones level. Wraith has less feats than either of them, but would kick the crap out of Thor or Orion.