Originally posted by Bentley
Does anyone other than Christ represents the whole christianity?
it should be Christ...
however, GIA is criticizing Catholicism, creating a big strawman fallacy that thought he already refuted and defeated the entire Christianity...
i don't know how to put this but maybe someone should tell him to understand Christianity first before criticizing it...
pet peeve... keeps on criticizing Christianity but his belief is named "Gnostic Christianity" which is a big misnomer...
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Catholics dont even read or follow the bible. They pray more to Mary then Jesus or God the Father.
Seems like the right thing to do as Jesus is now man's judge and not God the Father.
Jesus sits at the right hand of God in their myth and theology and he is now the power as his Father is redundant and retired.
Remember that Jesus promoted the idea of the Divine Council.
He saw himself as one of many Gods.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Catholics dont even read or follow the bible.
That is a misleading statement, obviously some Catholics do read the Bible and at least some try following it.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They pray more to Mary then Jesus or God the Father.
This isn't an absolute either.
Maybe both those statements can be statistically true for most Catholics, I really don't care much about number crunching.
If we are going to shoot down GIA for making generalizations about Christianity we should criticize as well bold statements about Catholicism.
Originally posted by Bentley
That is a misleading statement, obviously some Catholics do read the Bible and at least some try following it...
His point of view is despicable. Where does he get the idea that he has the right to judge the majority of Christians in the world as non-Christian?
Originally posted by Bentley
If we are going to shoot down GIA for making generalizations about Christianity we should criticize as well bold statements about Catholicism.
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
All who fly the cross have shown their poor morals by embracing the notion that substitutionary atonement is somehow a moral practice.All moral people know how immoral such a practice is.
Regards
DL
Many people have no choice. They go along to get along. There are advantages in being a Christian in our society. Why blame them?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Many people have no choice. They go along to get along. There are advantages in being a Christian in our society. Why blame them?
You are correct. Most who follow a religion do so due to peer pressure from community and culture.
I think it is hard to be a free thinker under such pressure. It is hard to be a black sheep. I do not exactly blame such weak characters. They are to be pitied.
Then not rising above it is still a fault when the immorality of a creed can be shown. That I do blame them for.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
You are correct. Most who follow a religion do so due to peer pressure from community and culture.I think it is hard to be a free thinker under such pressure. It is hard to be a black sheep. I do not exactly blame such weak characters. They are to be pitied.
Then not rising above it is still a fault when the immorality of a creed can be shown. That I do blame them for.
Regards
DL
Okay, but remember not to hate them.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Okay, but remember not to hate them.
If the God of the scriptures can hate and send those who have a different belief to eternal torture and death then I can hate all I like, those who follow that God of hate.
If their God can hate even Esau who had yet to do good nor evil, then I am showing that I am more responsible than he is. I allow Christians to believe stupidly before hating them for doing it.
They cause death and separation with their beliefs and should be hated by all those who do love their fellow man when he deserves it.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
If the God of the scriptures can hate and send those who have a different belief to eternal torture and death then I can hate all I like, those who follow that God of hate.
I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense. You must hold yourself to a higher standard then a make believe god.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
If their God can hate even Esau who had yet to do good nor evil, then I am showing that I am more responsible than he is. I allow Christians to believe stupidly before hating them for doing it.
But hate is like taking poison in spite of someone else.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
They cause death and separation with their beliefs and should be hated by all those who do love their fellow man when he deserves it.Regards
DL
Fighting against evil is not the same thing as hate.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense. You must hold yourself to a higher standard then a make believe god.But hate is like taking poison in spite of someone else.
Fighting against evil is not the same thing as hate.
The way Socrates put it, all people fall in two basic categories, Cows and dogs. Christians and other sheeple are cows. I am a dog. In his republic Socrates had dogs looking after and protecting the cows. Dogs are always leery of strangers while loyal to a fault to his friends.
That is not the same type of hate that I have for most who earn my hate by not looking at their morals and recognizing that they are poor after being shown how they are poor.
Intellectual and moral dissonance is what I hate and those who are so afflicted themselves and knowingly taking the moral low ground will feel my wrath.
Too bad, so sad.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
The way Socrates put it, all people fall in two basic categories, Cows and dogs. Christians and other sheeple are cows. I am a dog. In his republic Socrates had dogs looking after and protecting the cows. Dogs are always leery of strangers while loyal to a fault to his friends.That is not the same type of hate that I have for most who earn my hate by not looking at their morals and recognizing that they are poor after being shown how they are poor.
Intellectual and moral dissonance is what I hate and those who are so afflicted themselves and knowingly taking the moral low ground will feel my wrath.
Too bad, so sad.
Regards
DL
This is how we are different. I see everyone as sleeping Buddhas.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is how we are different. I see everyone as sleeping Buddhas.
I see us all as potential Gods and that is why I have negative feelings for those who willfully refuse to step up to their potential.
They waste air and resources that could keep another alive who has not gone into intellectual and moral dissonance.
I also recognize that I am a hard hearted guy thanks to my lack of upbringing as a youth but also think that without honest people like me who reject political correct hypocrisy, the world would be way worse off.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
[u]Both religions[u] have their heads up a genocidal son murderer's God's ass and it is impossible to differentiate one from the other.All who fly the cross ride use same scapegoat whipping boy.
Regards
DL
"both religions"... are you now separating catholics from Christians? or just recklessly merging them?