Dragon Ball Z: Revival of "F"

Started by Yamcha40 pages

Toriyama just saw Bio-Broly and thought it was genius, that's where the green goop comes from, we're getting Bio-Frieza. That's why Goku is fighting him without the use of Super Saiyan, he knows he'll disintegrate soon and wants to see if before that happens he can overcome an opponent who he couldn't overcome back on Namek in his base form, he wants to prove the statement made in the last movie by Bills false.

English Subbed trailer
YouTube video

Along with some new pictures

That looked pretty cool. I liked seeing the waves of aliens scouring across Earth.

Hoping for full on Roshi combat.

The subs in that trailer are a little off. Here's the actual translation:

TEXT: Creator, Writer, Character Designer – Akira Toriyama
TEXT: The Entire Universe Despairs
TEXT: The Evil Emperor
TEXT: Revived
PICCOLO: He’s come back as a monster in a totally different league from us!
VEGETA: What’s going on?!
GOKU: Freeza!
FREEZA: Allow me to show you… my further evolution!

Also, here's a bit of new information from the "Story" page of the official Jap website:

A fated clash!!
A battle surpassing gods begins — !!!!

After peace returned to Earth following the battle with God of Destruction Beerus, the surviving remnants of Freeza’s forces, Sorbet and Tagoma, approached, seeking the Dragon Balls. Their objective: to revive Freeza in order to bring his forces back to power. That worst wish in history is granted at last, and the resurrected Freeza plots his vengeance against Goku and the other Saiyans… And so, Freeza’s new army advances on Earth, and Gohan, Piccolo, and Kuririn clash with a thousand soldiers. Goku and Vegeta challenge Freeza to a fated duel, but Freeza had attained an overwhelming power-up!

“Allow me to show you… my further evolution!”

Now, for warriors beyond their limits, the curtain was about to open on a battle like none before or since –.

Source

Frieza: First form, second form, third form, final form, god form?

You forgot 100% God Form

with that many mooks maybe the b-listers will be able to do SOMETHING helpful. Maybe we might even see some improvement from the humans. More techniques and stuff. sounds fun.

Originally posted by juggerman
You forgot 100% God Form

He might even pull a Toguro and go 100% over 100%. 👆

Originally posted by Yamcha
English Subbed trailer
YouTube video

Along with some new pictures

👆 already looks better than that piece of garbage Battle of The Gods

Originally posted by Astner
He might even pull a Toguro and go 100% over 100%. 👆

Toguro math is awesome.

Originally posted by Astner
He might even pull a Toguro and go 100% over 100%. 👆

I'll go out of my way to admit I HATED the Namek saga for how tediously drawn out it was, not even counting trying to justify spanning a supposed five minute fight across what felt like a thousand ****ing episodes. Doesn't help that Freeza himself began devolving from this supposed tyrant into a generic schoolyard bully. I hope for his sake the film plays up the tyrannical vibes with the power increase to match, and being that it's one feature film, it's bound to have better pacing than relegating an entire chunk of the series to that one location.

I'm excited all the same, but more for the potential this has for future films, not so much for the returning character. Lemme know if Cell pops back up and then I'll be hyped to hell.

Yeah, great a villain as Frieza was, the Namek saga certainly wasn't without its flaws, but I'm confident the pacing with fighting against him in the movie will be better than "five minutes" was on Namek for reasons mentioned, and that they don't make him look like a sad joke like they did when making him a cyborg... The way Trunks wasted him much faster than Goku did despite the dramatic power increase Frieza was said to have gotten in that state, really did no favors for an otherwise threatening villain. ermm

^ In Mecha Freeza's defense, it was stated by Gohan that he was greatly suppressed when he first arrived on earth--and it was never shown or stated that he powered up prior to encountering Trunks.

It's weak that we never got to see his touted 'Mecha-power up', but he at least has a legit/canon excuse for losing so easily. /shrug

And also its not like it was a close fight once Goku turned super saiyan. He was just prolonging the suffering Frieza deserved. if he wanted it over he could have taken him out at any time. Also I may be wrong who knows but I was pretty sure Trunks was stronger than Namek age SS goku before he returned to Earth.

100% final form gave Goku a good fight for awhile though till stamina started taking its toll on him.

Hard to say for sure I guess on whether Trunks at that time was stronger than Namek SSJ Goku (I was under the impression that he was equal to that Goku), but either way he still would've made quick work of Frieza, partly because of the sword. *shrugs*

And point taken on that other stuff.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
And also its not like it was a close fight once Goku turned super saiyan. He was just prolonging the suffering Frieza deserved. if he wanted it over he could have taken him out at any time. Also I may be wrong who knows but I was pretty sure Trunks was stronger than Namek age SS goku before he returned to Earth.
Gohan stated that SSJ Trunks' ki was the same as Goku's was on Namek, which tells us they were around the same level.

Anywho, based on what we saw during the Namek saga, Freeza could have been using between 3%-70% of his power, and still retained the small/petite stature he had upon arriving on earth. However, Gohan's statement leads me to believe that Freeza was probably only tapping a lower percentage of his power. After all, Gohan was still on Namek when Freeza utilized 100% power, so his word on the matter is pretty irrefutable...

Yamcha: "Freeza's chi... He's that powerful?"
Gohan: "This is nothing... He gets way stronger than this!"
(Official Viz translation)

So yeah, I'd say Freeza was using 50% power at most when Trunks killed him. After all, the most powerful being Freeza would've planned on encountering on earth(sans Goku), was Vegeta--of whom he had easily slain on Namek while using only 3% of his power. With that knowledge, coupled with him believing Goku was still hours away, showing up at more than 50% power may have been a bit overkill... Even for Freeza. But I digress.

Point: any way you cut it, Freeza was suppressed when Trunks killed him, thus his 'Mecha power up' was never seen.

I'm not sure if Mecha Frieza would actually be able to have the kind of physique that the 100% final form did. Guess it depends on whether his mechanical parts would be able to "bulk up" too like the rest of his body when going 100%.

Freeza only started bulking up when he surpassed 70(ish)% power. So given that he was heavily suppressed on earth, we never got to see if his Mecha form still gained considerable mass upon fully powering up, like his organic form did on Namek.