Originally posted by dyajeep
for me, it's okay to care or give advice... but to force someone or tell directly that your belief is wrong or a myth, then you're asking for trouble...
of course it is; it's just being an ******* to try to belittle others by telling them your faith/belief is better than theirs, and then trying to force it on them.
now, if their belief/faith harms others, that's very different. then it's fine to get involved.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't waist your time. He doesn't even know that Catholics are Christians. He's just an idiot!
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1. The word you want to use here is not "waist" (person's midsection), but "waste", Shaky.
2. Many people and groups of people call themselves Christian and are not.
It's fascinating and troubling to see this sort of strawman become mainstream.
Perhaps the best case in point? Richard Dawkins ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/hay-festival/10853648/Richard-Dawkins-I-am-a-secular-Christian.html
Originally posted by riv6672
Agreed, but that can get touchy too.
Christian Scientists only hurt themselves...
and their children.
Should we tell them they're endangering/raising their children wrong? And force them to go against that religion?Touchy.
If children are involved, yes. Definitely.
Or do we all differ on what constitutes child abuse? I think it would be hard to say we do.
If children are involved, yes. Definitely.Or do we all differ on what constitutes child abuse? I think it would be hard to say we do.
Playing devil's advocate here. Dont personally buy off on Christian Science myself.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't waist your time. He doesn't even know that Catholics are Christians. He's just an idiot!
apart from your confusion on "waist" and "waste", this post is somewhat very out-of-character (or hypocritical) from someone who accuses me being filled with hate... now what do you think this post was filled of? love? or should i say Buddhist love? or maybe a freethinker love?
you go on and practically bash Christianity and the Bible and everyone who believe in it, and now we get this post from you? nice work, man, nice work... you just showed your true colors...
now, just a little rebuttal or defense on that crap you just spewed about Catholics and Christians...
i can post dozens of Bible verses that can show the difference of Catholic doctrines and Christian doctrines, most probably because you're too lazy to figure that out, or you're just plain ignorant about it... but i will not "waist" (lol, ok waste) my time posting Bible verses to someone who will just ignore them or will pretend not to understand them...
secondly, for the sake of argument, granting Catholics are indeed Christians, who do you think you are to say that Catholics represent the entire Christianity?
finally, stop hiding from Buddhism's shadow, you coward... you are a freethinker and that's what you really are... but in the strictest sense of the word "freethinker", you're not even qualified for it because freethinkers are people who form opinions on the basis of reason, something you apparently lack...
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
...2. Many people and groups of people call themselves Christian and are not...
You are Not the authority on who is and who is not Christian.
If you look up what religion is Catholic you will find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
You can have your own belief, but you cannot have your own facts.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are Not the authority on who is and who is not Christian.If you look up what religion is Catholic you will find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
You can have your own belief, but you cannot have your own facts.
just like you are not in the authority to say a religion or a book is a myth, pal...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are Not the authority on who is and who is not Christian.If you look up what religion is Catholic you will find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism
You can have your own belief, but you cannot have your own facts.
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Shaky ...?
Where have YOU been?
I haven't seen you for the better part of a month.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do snakes talk? 😆
yeah, snakes do not talk... and that's the reason why you will conclude that the Bible is a myth, then you're just like GIA i.e. his logic about the "talking donkey"...
the problem is, we all know who is the serpent talking to Eve in Genesis... i just don't know about you, buddy... but just to rub it in, the serpent who was talking here:
"Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, Did God say, You shall not eat of any tree of the garden?"
Genesis 3:1
was revealed here:
"So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
Revelation 12:9
also, i find it very odd when someone bashing Christianity and the Bible, and saying it's only a myth, when he concludes that the religion he's practicing is also a myth...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, I do not believe in evil spirits. 100% of all the evil in the world is created by humans. There is nothing for Satan or evil spirits to do. Humans don't need a mythological being to temp them. They do quit well on their own.
Originally posted by dyajeep
buddhists believe in devas and brahmas... what are those?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=603795&pagenumber=7
this guy has no credibility at all...
Not to beat s dead horse, but this same argument (with the same "do snakes talk" response no less) has cropped up every month or so since i've been here.
This is like a person who watches wrestling but posts in a wrestling forum saying its all fake. And the posters who react negatively at the statement.
This just gets threads derailed and tempers flaring. Nothing gained...
" ... This was the first time Buck had failed, in itself a sufficient reason to drive Hal into a rage. He exchanged the whip for the customary club. Buck refused to move under the rain of heavier blows which now fell upon him. Like his mates, he was barely able to get up, but, unlike them, He had made up his mind not to get up. He had a vague feeling of impending doom. This had been strong upon him when he pulled into the bank, and it had not departed from him. What of the thin and rotten ice he had felt under his feet all day, it seemed that he sensed disaster close at hand, out there ahead on the ice where his master was trying to drive him. He refused to stir. So greatly had he suffered, and so far gone was he, that the blows did not hurt much. And as they continued to fall upon him, the spark of life within flickered and went down. It was nearly out. He felt strangely numb. As though from a great distance, he was aware that he was being beaten. The last sensations of pain left him. He no longer felt anything, though very faintly he could hear the impact of the club upon his body. But it was no longer his body, it seemed so far away ..."
http://london.sonoma.edu/writings/CallOfTheWild/chapter5.html
The following gives an interesting commentary on Catholicism.
Guarantee you won't like it if you consider yourself Catholic; might not like it if you consider yourself Protestant, either; nevertheless it raises some noteworthy points that seem to have valid Biblical basis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL-ewDp0_w
4 minutes 44 seconds
Originally posted by riv6672
Agreed, but that can get touchy too.
Christian Scientists only hurt themselves...
and their children.
How do they hurt themselves exactly? By stating facts that you will continue to laugh at until you die or Christ returns and proves that they were right all along? How is caring about their children by telling them truth about Christ and the consequences of rejecting Him hurting them? If you think educating children about the truth of Christ and salvation is hurting them then you have a strange idea of what hurting someone is, riv.
I guess you think they should lie to them and tell them there is no creator right? Tell them that there is no God to comfort them or give them strength when they are going thru a difficult period or crisis in their life, right? Guess it's better for their kids to turn to drugs or even suicide when their problems become too much for them rather than telling them the truth that God will always help them/comfort them/give them much needed strength if they ask Him, huh? LOL.
Yeah, you're right. Christian scientist are only hurting their children. 🙄
If more parents educated their children on the truth of Jesus Christ and how to obtain salvation then the world would be a much better place today.