Originally posted by Star428
QFT, TI. He's the most cunning deceiver in all of creation and convincing the world that he (nor God) exists is his greatest trick.
Originally posted by dyajeep
there are some people who knows someone is really existing, but still pretends to believe it's non-existent... slip of the tongue, maybe... 😛
Yes, those are agents of Satan who realize that he does actually exists but claim he's a myth. But, most are actually deceived into believing he doesn't exist and are not seving him willingly by denying his existence but still serving his cause nonetheless. They are just his poor deceived pawns while the ones serving him willingly are more like his knights so-to-speak. Not that he actually cares about any of them, of course.
Originally posted by Star428
QFT, TI. He's the most cunning deceiver in all of creation and convincing the world that he (nor God) exists is his greatest trick.
What do you think of the term, --- justice delayed is justice denied.
Does that ring true to you?
If it does, then why did God reward Satan with dominion over the earth instead of hell?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It was late, and I was sleepy. What I meant was: The idea that satan wants you to believe that he does not exist is not proof that he does exist.
Using logic and reason against superstitious nonsense is not fair play to use against the delusions of others.
Tsk, tsk.
But do keep it up.
Regards
DL
Nope I don't think its a big deal at all. People can believe what they want. The only thing that is a real problem is people calling other people out...let me explain.
If a Christian hears an Atheist sneeze and says "God bless you" the Atheist can go ape shit and say "there is no such thing and you are a fool to believe" or they can stop and think "They believe differently then me but hey they are just trying to be nice". Same goes the other way around. People need to accept others believe differently and just because of that doesn't mean you shouldn't be respectful of someone elses beliefs.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Nope I don't think its a big deal at all. People can believe what they want. The only thing that is a real problem is people calling other people out...let me explain.If a Christian hears an Atheist sneeze and says "God bless you" the Atheist can go ape shit and say "there is no such thing and you are a fool to believe" or they can stop and think "They believe differently then me but hey they are just trying to be nice". Same goes the other way around. People need to accept others believe differently and just because of that doesn't mean you shouldn't be respectful of someone elses beliefs.
Well said.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Nope I don't think its a big deal at all. People can believe what they want. The only thing that is a real problem is people calling other people out...let me explain.If a Christian hears an Atheist sneeze and says "God bless you" the Atheist can go ape shit and say "there is no such thing and you are a fool to believe" or they can stop and think "They believe differently then me but hey they are just trying to be nice". Same goes the other way around. People need to accept others believe differently and just because of that doesn't mean you shouldn't be respectful of someone elses beliefs.
But can you really blame the Atheist? Atheists don't tell people that they are going to hell, or that they are being deceived by a mythological creature.
If all was equal, then you would be correct. But all is not equal.
the problem is that there are people who do not understand Christianity... they see this particular verse which is most probably taken out-of-context and go haywire...
Christianity does not condemn people to hell - ever... i can give more credible Bible verses if you want... or you can just take my word for it...
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now, let me ask you guys... why would an atheist (in his right senses) be offended or insulted if - and only if - some ignorant "christian-wannabe" told him he's going to hell or he's deceived by satan - when he does not believe in hell or satan? where's the logic there? can someone pitch in and help me out?
because if i were an atheist, i don't freakin' care if you tell me that because i don't believe that those exist...
not unless...
*ahem*
that person knows that hell and satan exist, but just PRETENDS to believe they're non-existent...
then, he'll surely be offended...
such hatred on Christianity...
if only some people try to shut up, and think, and respect others' beliefs, especially if you don't fully understand the belief you are criticizing...
Originally posted by dyajeep
the problem is that there are people who do not understand Christianity... they see this particular verse which is most probably taken out-of-context and go haywire...Christianity does not condemn people to hell - ever... i can give more credible Bible verses if you want... or you can just take my word for it...
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now, let me ask you guys... why would an atheist (in his right senses) be offended or insulted if - and only if - some ignorant "christian-wannabe" told him he's going to hell or he's deceived by satan - when he does not believe in hell or satan? where's the logic there? can someone pitch in and help me out?
because if i were an atheist, i don't freakin' care if you tell me that because i don't believe that those exist...
not unless...
*ahem*
that person knows that hell and satan exist, but just PRETENDS to believe they're non-existent...
then, he'll surely be offended...
such hatred on Christianity...
if only some people try to shut up, and think, and respect others' beliefs, especially if you don't fully understand the belief you are criticizing...
Would you be offended if I call you an *******, even if you do not believe you are one?