Do you care if others believe what you do?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But can you really blame the Atheist? Atheists don't tell people that they are going to hell, or that they are being deceived by a mythological creature.

If all was equal, then you would be correct. But all is not equal.

I think it depends per person. I know Atheists that seem to think it is their duty to jump down the throat of anyone who says anything about religion. That is just as much a problem as someone who screams people will go to hell for not repenting.

Originally posted by red g jacks
man i've never seen that kind of shit happen irl i just always hear christians talking about it as if it happens. like really what kind of dick is going to start an argument over a sneeze.

plus when people say bless you i don't even think about religion it's just one of those weird customs that you have to observe. to me them saying 'bless you' really translates to "i acknowledge that you just sneezed" which seems weird to me but i go along with it cause it's normal.

lol it was a "for example" type of scenario. Point is if someone believes differently then you but they are trying to be generous and their beliefs show through a little then that should be okay. People should accept that they are just trying to be generous.

Originally posted by Star428
Well said.

Thank You!

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I think it depends per person. I know Atheists that seem to think it is their duty to jump down the throat of anyone who says anything about religion. That is just as much a problem as someone who screams people will go to hell for not repenting.

lol it was a "for example" type of scenario. Point is if someone believes differently then you but they are trying to be generous and their beliefs show through a little then that should be okay. People should accept that they are just trying to be generous.

Originally posted by red g jacks
yea i know i was just pointing out i've seen a bunch of random christians bring up this exact scenario but i've never actually encountered it irl. it seems like a sort of hyperbole of how arrogant atheists can be that basically was all sparked off from a dane cook joke. i have encountered plenty of annoying and arrogant atheists but that kind of scenario doesn't actually happen in my experience. but generally i agree with you, people should try to get along and not take every opportunity to preach. but at the end of the day i love a good argument so anyone who comes at me with the good news is just gonna be cannon fodder.

Lol, nicely put. I've used the word atheist for its shock value, but only when I'm not the initiating party. I've also yet to meet the stereotypical angry atheist outside obscure parts of Youtube and other corners of the internet. Obviously they exist; it's statistical inevitability. But I can't help but feel like most of the accounts of them are, at best, hyperbole.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I think it depends per person. I know Atheists that seem to think it is their duty to jump down the throat of anyone who says anything about religion. That is just as much a problem as someone who screams people will go to hell for not repenting.
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I have met both types, but the numbers are not equal. There are far more Christians who will tell you that you are going to hell, then atheists that get upset about religious talk.

Originally posted by dyajeep
wrong analogy... it's not about what i believe i am, but it's if what i believe exists...

again, the premise: atheists (and such) do not believe in satan and hell, for them, satan and hell does not exist... if (this is a big "if", i'm not saying i will, but "if"😉 i call an atheist that he's going to hell, why would he be offended? if i were the atheist, i would just laugh it off...

Originally posted by red g jacks
not that i would really care but to answer your question, maybe he'd be offended that you believe in a god and moral system that would see him tortured for eternity. basically you're telling him you think he's a ****ed up person who deserves all the suffering in the world. even if he thinks you're wrong he might be offended that you see him in this way.

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Originally posted by red g jacks
yea i know i was just pointing out i've seen a bunch of random christians bring up this exact scenario but i've never actually encountered it irl. it seems like a sort of hyperbole of how arrogant atheists can be that basically was all sparked off from a dane cook joke. i have encountered plenty of annoying and arrogant atheists but that kind of scenario doesn't actually happen in my experience. but generally i agree with you, people should try to get along and not take every opportunity to preach. but at the end of the day i love a good argument so anyone who comes at me with the good news is just gonna be cannon fodder.

Well just to be clear in my originating post I wasn't singling out Atheists. Just the first example I thought of. I personally know an Atheist that claims he feels constantly discriminated against for being Atheist. However, anytime anyone says anything about religion (even over social media) he feels the need to call it out. He acts as if people that believe are morons and its his job to "fix" it. It doesn't have to be comments even directed at him but he goes nuts. I have also encountered religious types that do the same type of thing if you make any insinuation about not believing or believing something else. So no I haven't actually encountered someone lose it over a sneeze but things just as meaningless.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have met both types, but the numbers are not equal. There are far more Christians who will tell you that you are going to hell, then atheists that get upset about religious talk.

If no one believes it's as if a lot of people are telling you you're mean. It's a feedback loop, that's how you know when you're right and when you're wrong, when others believe you.

The trick is being able to tell when they're being earnest.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
So it is confrontational to ask Christians to walk their talk.

Regards
DL

Oderint Dum Metuant
JR

Originally posted by riv6672
I didnt say IT was confrontational, i said YOU were needlessly confrontational.
Guess i wasnt clear.

Oderint Dum Metuant
JR

Yes, I am quite assertive. I do not like lies nor people lying to themselves.

All religions are based on myths and those who do not believe that are lying to themselves and that is not a good way to go through life.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Well just to be clear in my originating post I wasn't singling out Atheists. Just the first example I thought of. I personally know an Atheist that claims he feels constantly discriminated against for being Atheist. However, anytime anyone says anything about religion (even over social media) he feels the need to call it out. He acts as if people that believe are morons and its his job to "fix" it. It doesn't have to be comments even directed at him but he goes nuts. I have also encountered religious types that do the same type of thing if you make any insinuation about not believing or believing something else. So no I haven't actually encountered someone lose it over a sneeze but things just as meaningless.

on an semi-related note there was some kid in one of my classes a while back that every time someone sneezed he would say "bless you by the god of your choice." the first time he said it he got a few chuckles but then he just kept saying it every time someone sneezed and it was just weird.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Yes, I am quite assertive. I do not like lies nor people lying to themselves.

All religions are based on myths and those who do not believe that are lying to themselves and that is not a good way to go through life.

Regards
DL

Oderint Dum Metuant
JR

Originally posted by red g jacks
on an semi-related note there was some kid in one of my classes a while back that every time someone sneezed he would say "bless you by the god of your choice." the first time he said it he got a few chuckles but then he just kept saying it every time someone sneezed and it was just weird.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
...That is true but to me that shouldn't change much of anything. Just because one side is out numbered by more non sense shouting loons then the other doesn't mean the other side should join in.

So, you don't believe in affirmative action? After all, I don't remember reading, in history, about atheists burning Christians at the stake.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Do you really think someone else can pay your dues and allow you to shirk your just reward?

Nope. I'd be surprised if any theologian worth a dime interpreted redemption as how you describe though. Religion teaches personal responsability.

Originally posted by Bentley
Nope. I'd be surprised if any theologian worth a dime interpreted redemption as how you describe though. Religion teaches personal responsability.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you don't believe in affirmative action? After all, I don't remember reading, in history, about atheists burning Christians at the stake.

Past is the past though. Maybe there are still religion nuts out there but I doubt there will be another crusade or witch trial. So I don't think its fair to judge any religion based on a bloody past. I yet again have to place responsibility on the person as apposed to their religion.

Originally posted by red g jacks
it's cool, you didn't offend me or anything i just saw that example pop up so many times by now from random people that i felt like commenting on it.

on an semi-related note there was some kid in one of my classes a while back that every time someone sneezed he would say "bless you by the god of your choice." the first time he said it he got a few chuckles but then he just kept saying it every time someone sneezed and it was just weird.

lol at least he was being considerate I suppose.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
...Past is the past though. Maybe there are still religion nuts out there but I doubt there will be another crusade or witch trial. So I don't think its fair to judge any religion based on a bloody past. I yet again have to place responsibility on the person as apposed to their religion...

There could be a bloody future.

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/19539/ready-rebuild-temple/#h21qZuF8yErZ2WJt.97

I think people should believe in Jesus.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
I think people should believe in Jesus.

Jesus is a Bodhisattva in my religion, and a prophet in Islam. Therefore, there are a lot of people who believe in Jesus. They just don't believe that same as you do.

Exactly. Its the well, devil in the details that gets people arguing many times.