Bricks & BFR

Everytime i see Juggernaut vs Thor or a Superman vs say a Grundy thread the first or atleast one of the first responses is always "Superman punches him to the moon" or "Thor punts him to the sun" but how viable is that tactic in a real bout? I can only think of a handful of times when elite bricks have been BFRed. For example Thor/Nul (weakened Thor vs an Amped Hulk) or Skaar/Hulk vs Juggernaut. But those examples are few and far in between. Anywho just curious as to the forums consensus on the subj....

This isn't a BFR exactly but it very well could have been one.

When Nimrod fought Juggernaut he sent him rocketing into the air. He didn't BFR him because as we know due to the story he wanted him dead.

But he did do a BFR on Sebastian Shaw by reversing his gravimetrical polarity.

So in answer to your question in full. I think every character would at some point BFR someone. But I don't think the tactic lends itself to other characters as much as it does others. For example Nimrod can reverse the gravimetrical polarity of people sending them rocketing to space, and he can do the thing that he did to Juggernaut.

But if you look at Supes or Thor. While it's viable for them to use BFR as a tactic. Like we see them do. I just think it's more related to powersets that the characters have. It's just not as common.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Everytime i see Juggernaut vs Thor or a Superman vs say a Grundy thread the first or atleast one of the first responses is always "Superman punches him to the moon" or "Thor punts him to the sun" but how viable is that tactic in a real bout? I can only think of a handful of times when elite bricks have been BFRed. For example Thor/Nul (weakened Thor vs an Amped Hulk) or Skaar/Hulk vs Juggernaut. But those examples are few and far in between. Anywho just curious as to the forums consensus on the subj....

Depends on how intelligent you see the characters, I suppose.

Rhino vs Spidey? If I were Rhino, the moment I managed to grab hold of him I'd throw him as far and as hard as I could.

The next point would be, but these guys in character wouldn't do that. Superman wouldn't punt XXX to the Moon.

It then goes down to their intelligence. Would Superman, if he was losing afight against XXX, really not start exploring other avenues of victory?

Obviously BFR is a viable option, faster characters like superman can bfr characters like hulk easy, all he has to do is pick him up using his speed and dump him far far away.

It's a shitty way of copping out of a forum fight

Originally posted by psycho gundam
It's a shitty way of copping out of a forum fight

A lot of the characters that are picked to bar could win by speed advantage anyway. Bfr is a viable argument and one of the most practical and easiest ways to win an argument. Why waste time arguing for pages when you can win with three letters (bfr).

Originally posted by thingy150
A lot of the characters that are picked to bar could win by speed advantage anyway. Bfr is a viable argument and one of the most practical and easiest ways to win an argument. Why waste time arguing for pages when you can win with three letters (bfr).

Because there is a percentage that this strategy would not work due to the resistance of the character that is going to be BFR'd. You do know about Murphy's Law right?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Everytime i see Juggernaut vs Thor or a Superman vs say a Grundy thread the first or atleast one of the first responses is always "Superman punches him to the moon" or "Thor punts him to the sun" but how viable is that tactic in a real bout? I can only think of a handful of times when elite bricks have been BFRed. For example Thor/Nul (weakened Thor vs an Amped Hulk) or Skaar/Hulk vs Juggernaut. But those examples are few and far in between. Anywho just curious as to the forums consensus on the subj....

This is 100% viable in a non PIS fight. There is no reason to then wont be able to do this in a fight. Is 100% PIS.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because there is a percentage that this strategy would not work due to the resistance of the character that is going to be BFR'd. You do know about Murphy's Law right?

BFR is an easy thing to pull off, the character they are BFRing weighs much less than what their strength lvl is and if the character has a speed advantage then the bfr is an obvious option.

It is just a way a character with a clear advantage can win.

Originally posted by thingy150
BFR is an easy thing to pull off, the character they are BFRing weighs much less than what their strength lvl is and if the character has a speed advantage then the bfr is an obvious option.

It is just a way a character with a clear advantage can win.

It's obvious, but it may not always work because nothing is guaranteed. The chances of the attempted BFR working increase with the speed disparity. That is obvious, but there are always other factors that may lead to the intended victim escaping the bum rush. Superman is faster than Doomsday, but when he attempted to BFR him, Doomsday broke out, and brought them crashing back to the Earth. It would also depend on the power set like One Angry Scot mentioned. Speed is not the only thing that matters. Take Magneto for example, he would never have to mix it up with guys like Colossus, Cyborg, the Metal Men.. etc.. Nor would he require speed to end the battle with possibly more speed than Superman. Lots of factors to consider.

Originally posted by Stoic
It's obvious, but it may not always work because nothing is guaranteed. The chances of the attempted BFR working increase with the speed disparity. That is obvious, but there are always other factors that may lead to the intended victim escaping the bum rush. Superman is faster than Doomsday, but when he attempted to BFR him, Doomsday broke out, and brought them crashing back to the Earth. It would also depend on the power set like One Angry Scot mentioned. Speed is not the only thing that matters. Take Magneto for example, he would never have to mix it up with guys like Colossus, Cyborg, the Metal Men.. etc.. Nor would he require speed to end the battle with possibly more speed than Superman. Lots of factors to consider.

Doomsday is faster than a lot of people that superman could BFR, of course it may not always work, nothing is guaranteed. Nothing is for sure in a fight it is basically just people guessing by using feats. BFR is a very viable option just like anything else, just like all those other things it is not guaranteed but we do the best we can to come up with a way that a character can beat the other. Every single one of these battle threads is subjective but to further the thread and the argument we give ways a character can beat the other, are those ways perfect, no, but we do what we can to try and make an educated guess.

It depends on the damage soak of a person. Example, punching someone like Doomsday or Hulk extremely hard probably won't send them out of orbit due to their bodies absorbing most of the impact but using other means of bfr could work.

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on the damage soak of a person. Example, punching someone like Doomsday or Hulk extremely hard probably won't send them out of orbit due to their bodies absorbing most of the impact but using other means of bfr could work.

😂 You don't have to punch someone to BFR them, literally you could just pick them up and with superior speed just dump them in outer space, that simple.

Originally posted by thingy150
😂 You don't have to punch someone to BFR them, literally you could just pick them up and with superior speed just dump them in outer space, that simple.

Yea but that rarely happens. Even superspeed which everyone brags about so much isnt an auto win

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea but that rarely happens. Even superspeed which everyone brags about so much isnt an auto win

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And he obviously didn't read my post. I clearly said there are other ways of bfring.

Originally posted by carver9
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And he obviously didn't read my post. I clearly said there are other ways of bfring.

Exactly. I was on comicvine earlier and read an argument stating supes would just grab hulk and fly him to the moon. First off he'd have to k.o him first (which wouldn't happen) and if he didn't k.o. him grab him and fly him fast enough that he couldn't react without hulk hitting him or breaking his hold. Its just not viable

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Exactly. I was on comicvine earlier and read an argument stating supes would just grab hulk and fly him to the moon. First off he'd have to k.o him first (which wouldn't happen) and if he didn't k.o. him grab him and fly him fast enough that he couldn't react without hulk hitting him or breaking his hold. Its just not viable

Are you you serious? SUPERMAN HAS A HUGE SPEED AND REACTION TIME ADVANTAGE OVER THE HULK, HE DOES NOT NEED TO KNOCK HIM OUT TO BFR HIM. LOL TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE YOU LOST AN ARGUMENT TO SOMEONE AND NOW YOU ARE COMING HERE AND COMPLAINING ABOUT BFR.

DAMN KIDS ON THIS FORUM ARE SO BIASED IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY, YOU CANNOT WIN ARGUMENTS SO YOU JUST IGNORE THINGS AN MAKE SH*T UP.

SUPERMANS SPEED AND REACTION TIME IS HOW HE BFR'S HULK, BOTH NEW 52 SUPERMAN AND POST CRISIS HAVE GONE FTL AND THEY BOTH HAVE INCREDIBLE REACTION TIME SCANS.

Originally posted by thingy150
Are you you serious? SUPERMAN HAS A HUGE SPEED AND REACTION TIME ADVANTAGE OVER THE HULK, HE DOES NOT NEED TO KNOCK HIM OUT TO BFR HIM. LOL TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE YOU LOST AN ARGUMENT TO SOMEONE AND NOW YOU ARE COMING HERE AND COMPLAINING ABOUT BFR.

DAMN KIDS ON THIS FORUM ARE SO BIASED IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY, YOU CANNOT WIN ARGUMENTS SO YOU JUST IGNORE THINGS AN MAKE SH*T UP.

SUPERMANS SPEED AND REACTION TIME IS HOW HE BFR'S HULK, BOTH NEW 52 SUPERMAN AND POST CRISIS HAVE GONE FTL AND THEY BOTH HAVE INCREDIBLE REACTION TIME SCANS.

WTF, man?

Originally posted by -Pr-
WTF, man?

I am very sorry for the caps, carver is being ridiculous and i am in a weird mood.

Is carver a troll? or is he just that biased?

This week Nova BFR Kluh (amped version of Hulk ?).

Then it is the second amped version of Hulk who was BFR.

The only reason Hulk is not BFR more often is PIS and nothing more.