Darth Bane vs Shaak Ti

Wait Ants quotes were opinions?

Those double standards, good god.

Not sure why people are so eager to side with Bane, he is slower, less skilled, and his power isn't giving him any advantages here. He might wear her down with physical strength, but if she can TK Starkiller she can send him flying at the very least.

Originally posted by Selenial
Wait Ants quotes were opinions?

Those double standards, good god.

Regardless of the subjectivity of Banes statement, lets remember that there was a reason he was so highly regarded.He mastered every form in years and then spent decades perfecting all aspects of them. His skills are as close to legitimate perfection as it gets.

So did Cin Drallig.

Yeh, we all know in how high esteem you hold him.

I don't recall accolades detailing the depths of his mastery. Not to the same degree as Kas'im. And Kas'im wasn't old and weak like he was. Besides, no one doubts Dralligs skill is extremely high.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why would a 7 foot tall mountain of muscle who rips durasteel doors off their hinges be put on the backfoot by Shaak Ti's power blows?

Grievous is actually 7ft 1in, and probably stronger physically than Bane.

Anyways, I'm undecided atm. Leaning towards Shaak Ti.

He was also amped by the darkside energies of the stone prison when he ripped the durasteel door off its doors.

Once again he could feel the power of the dark side. It was strong in this
place; the misery and suffering of centuries hung in the air here. Bane
could almost hear the screams of all the countless victims still echoing off
the walls.

Originally posted by carthage
He was also amped by the darkside energies of the stone prison when he ripped the durasteel door off its doors.

Originally posted by Stigma
Bane is more like 6ft 6.5 in. Slightly shorter than Darth Vader. 😛

Grievous is actually 7ft 1in, and probably stonger physically than Bane.

Anyways, I'm undecided atm. Leaning towards Shaak Ti.

Well, 2 meters still pretty tall. And Grievous punted Ti across the room so ok. Also I'm not convinced that a guy who lost a sabers lock to Ahsoka is stronger than Bane but also ok.

Originally posted by Stigma
That's what I suspected.

Bane was drugged and weakened by a force-suppressing cocktail.

Grievous doesn't need a nexus to pierce durasteel, break transparisteel, or smash an entire security console. He is plenty stronger than Bane.

Bane's only non nexus strength feat is breaking skulls. Also Vader has plenty of superior strength feats to Bane as well.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane was drugged and weakened by a force-suppressing cocktail.

Still hard for me to properly judge the value of this feat. On the one hand being drugged, on the other getting amped. Hmm...

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane was drugged and weakened by a force-suppressing cocktail.

What proof in text do you have that Bane said that it weakened his connection to the force?

Originally posted by Stigma
I see.

Still hard for me to properly judge the value of this feat. On the one hand being drugged, on the other getting amped. Hmm...

I'll give you a push, the text specifically says that he's weaker than normal. It mentions nothing of an amp.

So you don't have any proof that the drugs affected Bane's ability to draw on the force? Ok. Being weakened wouldn't affect him either as he would have darkside energies to draw off of which is supported by the above mentioned quote.

A reminder than carthage is on ignore for me, so any failure to address his points on my behalf isn't a sign of inability but rather of simple disdain and utterly willful ignorance.

Originally posted by Stigma
I see.

Still hard for me to properly judge the value of this feat. On the one hand being drugged, on the other getting amped. Hmm...

You heard it right that there is no proof drugs/weariness affected him you might want to re-read Chapter 19 of DoE. Bane in spite of being "weakened" obviously had no problem lifting a durasteel door, killing guards with telekinesis, etc due to the darkside energies of the prison.

Ti should take this.

OP states no nexus, so he would not be able to draw on anything to increase his strength.

What about speed though, what has Ti done that compares to Bane?

Originally posted by Nephthys
A reminder than carthage is on ignore for me, so any failure to address his points on my behalf isn't a sign of inability but rather of simple disdain and utterly willful ignorance.

Oh, he proved that there was a Nexus.

Also, force suppressing cocktails? Lol. Nox managed to kill a lord under the effect of these when she was still an acolyte, they can't be that good.