Hercules vs Wonder Woman

Started by abhilegend9 pages

Originally posted by krisblaze
And when we'll see Hulk perm feats of unlimited strength, we'll know that Reed was right.

Until then, hyperbole.

Unless you believe in unlimited anger.


He has potential to become as strong as he wants as stated countless times in comics.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So Hulk has unlimited strength in your opinion?

So I guess you lost and now want to steer away from that topic?

Answer the question, please

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has potential to become as strong as he wants as stated countless times in comics.

The general statement is that he gets stronger the angrier he gets.

Not that he can get as strong as he wants. I take it you're not familiar with the traditional conflicts that take place in Hulk's comics.

Becoming stronger as you become angrier is not "unlimited" strength because of several reasons.

- There's no unlimited gamma energy.

- Even the emotional avatars are not unlimited.

- Hulk is not the TOAA.

- This hasn't been SHOWN in comics.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Answer the question, please
I answered it already.
Originally posted by krisblaze
The general statement is that he gets stronger the angrier he gets.

Not that he can get as strong as he wants. I take it you're not familiar with the traditional conflicts that take place in Hulk's comics.

Becoming stronger as you become angrier is not "unlimited" strength because of several reasons.

- There's no unlimited gamma energy.

- Even the emotional avatars are not unlimited.

- Hulk is not the TOAA.

- This hasn't been SHOWN in comics.

I said he has the potential not that he can achieve it.

You just contradicted your self in 1 post

Yes Hulk is infinitely strong

Or

No Hyperbole is nonsense.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You just contradicted your self in 1 post

Yes Hulk is infinitely strong

Or

No Hyperbole is nonsense.

So you don't know the difference between potential and actually achieving IT?

Do you not know that you just described hyperbole in a fictional medium.

Concession accepted

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you don't know the difference between potential and actually achieving IT?
If someone has the potential then there is a possibility they can reach it. Don't you grasp that ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I said he has the potential not that he can achieve it.

Okay, but that also isn't possible because nobody is infinitely strong beyond the TOAA.

Hulk's potentially unlimited strength is clearly hyperbole since the avatars of anger is not unlimited in Marvel. The concept of anger is not unlimited in Marvel, ergo Hulk can not achieve unlimited strength.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Do you not know that you just described hyperbole in a fictional medium.

Concession accepted


Haha, junior Quan is here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, junior Quan is here.
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Originally posted by ODG
If what you say is true, does that mean Hyperion could one-shot a planet 10x the size of Earth since he caught the Rogue Planet?
Don't know, don't know the feat.

If that planet was as large as Earth and orbiting a star the size of our Sun (I'm not sure if the other planets in the solar system contribute to the energy at all)? Yeah, he probably could.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Yes I'm referring to Supermans benchpress feat vs Thor's multi planetoids/planet moon busting strikes.

Sure but moving a planet 3 feet or what ever Superman's wingspan is, is significantly less not to mention he didn't physically move the planet. He benched 6.6 quadrillion tons.

I've pointed that out myself in the past, that bench-pressing the weight of the Earth like DCnU Superman did is not the same as pushing the planet out of its orbit. I mean, that isn't what you said in the post I responded to, but all right.

Frankly, I've always thought the 6.6 sextillion feat was pretty overrated. Pre-reboot Superman had much better strength feats than that. Still though, to compare to cracking open the surface of a planet like Thor one has to take into account the relative ease with which the feats were performed and the duration. Thor did his with bursts of energy while fighting for his life, whereas Superman did his over an extended period of time (I think it was five days?) and implied he could do more after doing so.

I'm not sure how much kinetic energy Superman would have been exerting while lifting that weight. I guess it would depend on how fast he lifted it. At Superman's top speed a mass lifted that quickly would result in kinetic energy that would shit on planet busting speeds. Hell, at speeds far less than his top speed it would shit on planet busting speeds. And that would just be the kinetic energy in the mass itself, not how much energy Superman's muscles produced to accomplish the feat.

I don't think we can prove how fast the weight was lifted though, nor do I know of any other way to calculate the kinetic energy (also this much math in comics is sort of gay). So quantifiably Thor's feat is probably superior (though comparing lifting feats to striking feats is tricky, but at the same time I am not too familiar with DCnU Superman). Wasn't it with Mjolnir though?

It was also on a moon and was destroying the planet it was orbiting.

Speed should be left out of it, DC has the speed force which is murky when it comes to any high speed feats.

Tbf any character moving there mass ftl should shred planets just by passing them

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor is STRONGER than Supes, now whether it's a full 16x or not I don't care really but it's a tangible difference.

Ummm.... Seriously? 🤨
facepalm

Originally posted by NemeBro
Don't know, don't know the feat.

If that planet was as large as Earth and orbiting a star the size of our Sun (I'm not sure if the other planets in the solar system contribute to the energy at all)? Yeah, he probably could.


An earth sized planet was coming at Earth at 5000 mph and Hyperion caught it

Originally posted by quanchi112
If someone has the potential then there is a possibility they can reach it. Don't you grasp that ?

He can, but hasn't yet. Until then...

Originally posted by thingy150
You know what version this is, you just wanted to name a few companies.

There is no character named "hercules" in DC comics btw

Marvel.....obviously........


There is both Hercules and Herakles in DC. Herucles is the one that Captain Marvel gets his strength from, and Herakles the one Diana has a beef with. Not sure about it after the reboot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wtf? When has been here hinted to be stronger than Thor?

And still with Thor bandwagon? Come on kid, who are you fooling? Superman is MUCH stronger than Thor. Even super man haters like quan admit that.


Much stronger. I disagree. Stronger. Yes

Originally posted by thingy150
You are in no position to be calling someone kid, you have said some of the dumbest things i have ever seen in my life.

Same goes for you thingy.