Ms. Marvel vs Thing

Who wins?

No bfring.

Grimm.

Ben.

Carol.... She can blast him from the sky or just dump him in the ocean and wait for him to drown.

Not sure if that would work.

Yeah. To "dump him in the ocean" she would have to pick him up somehow and he is big enough their isn't anyway that she could get a hold of him where he couldn't reach her and fight it off.

*awaits the 13 year old mindset reaction*

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She is capable of ftl speed, even assuming she can't use it in atmosphere like almost all marvel characters she can tank a few punches.

Carol was strong enough to get the better of Mr. Fixit, until he turned into the Savage Hulk. I think that she may be able to take him based on that one showing.

I always thought Carol had a little bit of a strength advantage and surely speed.

I don't know. Its to close to call.

Carol is probably class 60-80 at base but amping off energy she gets physically stronger.

Her durability is in line with class 100 though.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Carol is probably class 60-80 at base but amping off energy she gets physically stronger.

Her durability is in line with class 100 though.

I don't think that this is the case any longer. She was able to contend with a blood lusted Wonder Man while he was being controlled by Modok, or something along those lines. She was also able to physically over power Mr. Fixit until he turned into the Savage Hulk. So she is somewhere between Mr. Fixit, and Savage Hulk in terms of strength. Fixit of course can become stronger with time, but this still does not excuse her showing against Simon.

She didn't overpower Fixit. She commented that he wasn't as strong as the savage Hulk, then punched him three times, the third one knocking him away. When he came back he had turned into the savage Hulk (inexplicably - Loeb).

Anyway, he never even had a chance to throw a punch and there was certainly no test of strength. Her punches were powerful enough to knock Fixit around, but that's about all we can take from that scene.

Cheers.

Originally posted by LGU
She didn't overpower Fixit. She commented that he wasn't as strong as the savage Hulk, then punched him three times, the third one knocking him away. When he came back he had turned into the savage Hulk (inexplicably - Loeb).

Anyway, he never even had a chance to throw a punch and there was certainly no test of strength. Her punches were powerful enough to knock Fixit around, but that's about all we can take from that scene.

Cheers.

True but it dos not excuse her run in with Simon.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
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She is capable of ftl speed, even assuming she can't use it in atmosphere like almost all marvel characters she can tank a few punches.

If this is directed at my statement. I meant that Carol is a normal sized human female where as Ben is several times larger then a normal human male. She can't just grab him in any hold that Ben can't reach her. Unless maybe she gets him in a super wedgie or something. And if he GRABS her. She can't "dump him in the ocean".

The dumping in the ocean or BFR has been turned off in the OP. They have to fight it out.

Originally posted by Stoic
True but it dos not excuse her run in with Simon.

Mr. Fixit was CL70... Ben ko's her faster than Simon did

Simon would punk Ben.

Well Namor didn't look all that impressive against Ben in their last two meetings.

Mr. Fixit isn't class 70...stop using bios and Ms. Marvel was obviously holding back against Wonderman.