Ms. Marvel vs Thing

Started by juggernaut745 pages

Ben was showng pressing 85 tons in a actual comic recently and it was heavily implied it was his max iirc.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
A non Binary Carol is CL70 (70 tons)
Current Ben on his worst day can lift 200+ tons.

YOU get out

Ben maxed out at 100 tons in a contest with She-Hulk and struggled at that.

Carol punts Ben into Orbit.

Don't think they made it to 100 tons.

Ben did, Shulk maxed out at less

Pretty sure they stopped at 85 tons after She-Hulk threw the towel in.

Idk I'm on Vacation right now without my longbox(es). Your talking about the FF relaunch in Marvel Now right?

It was a couple years ago.

Thing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ben is class 85, it's not based on lifting feats. Even ms marvel has lifted far above 100 tons.

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Ben hasn't been CL85 for more than a decade

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Ben hasn't been CL85 for more than a decade

You're right. He's more like class 80.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Idk I'm on Vacation right now without my longbox(es). Your talking about the FF relaunch in Marvel Now right?

Yes. They didn't get to 100 tons.

Thing wanted to race to 100 tons, but She Hulk called it quits at 85 and the match ended abruptly.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Pretty sure they stopped at 85 tons after She-Hulk threw the towel in.

I didn't read the scene as 85 being her absolute best. After conceding she leaps over, throws herself onto what he was lifting and they're joking about. I'm sure if the fate of the world rested on her being able to push another 10 to 20 tons, she'd lift it. I'd take it as a marker of what she's comfortable lifting on an average day and a more reasonable assessment than the 'well over 100' that pops up on her wikis and has no basis in comics since the days of 'Jupiter Suit Jen'.

As to the actual fight here... I rate Ben as stronger and more durable in that his 'armour' would give him more protection/absorb more of the impact of her hits than her durability would protect her from his fists. Which isn't to say she couldn't land a KO because she's got the power to do it, but I think toe-to-toe, he's more likely to wear her down enough to get an opening for his Sunday punch.

Hmm they smack each other around for a while, Ben clocks her with a decent shot but as he moves in, off she flies, speeding high above, before turning and descending at speed! As she does so, Ben starts tearing up the surrounding terrain to hurl in her path but she slips through his man-made asteroid field. With her closing fast, he winds up to smash her into orbit but the ground disappears from under him from a double dose of photon blasts. He staggers back losing his balance and BOOOOM, she's rammed him! A weary Marvel steps out of the crater leaving the Thing flat on his back. Carol wins, hurrah.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Ben hasn't been CL85 for more than a decade


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Wasn't there an issue where Ben was training some Avengers and they mentioned him being Class 100?

I thought he was training some Xmen.

He was training them to fight class 100 characters.

Wasn't he the simulation?

Split imo. CD has the speed, flight and long range energy attack advantage, while Ben has the strength, damage soak and skill advantage.

Originally posted by carver9
Mr. Fixit isn't class 70...stop using bios and Ms. Marvel was obviously holding back against Wonderman.
Originally posted by carver9
Mr. Fixit isn't class 70...stop using bios and Ms. Marvel was obviously holding back against Wonderman.
i think ms marvel will win here