Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The time he defeated the entire Justice League...
You're indirectly debating prep here. Batman has detailed files on every member of the JL, and has a fallback plan to defeat them. He knows how they all fight, but this is something that he does not know about Gamora. He doesn't suddenly get a Bat computer to study her fighting style, or one sided prep. He simply runs in, and gets KO'd because he is slower than she is. Strength, body size, and durability dictates that she is faster, and more agile than he is in every way.
Originally posted by h1a8
Batman would have sliced her leg off with his new shiny adamantium swords that the op so kindly gave him.
Doubtful. He probably doesn't have the strength to cleave off a guys arm that is as durable as Terrax. Batman is peak human. Stop giving him more credit than he is due. He's a beast at his level, and can beat very strong lethargic characters, but when it comes to characters that are as good as he is at fighting, but happen to be far above him in strength, the only time he would win is in a comic. I wouldn't even give him the majority against Gamora in a comic without prep, which goes to show you how large the gap is between them. Aren't you always going on about how you can prove mathematically how one character could defeat the other? Why don't you come up with some figures in this case?
Plain and simple. This is a forum fight with no PIS/Batman wank from the writers. Gamora has every advantage here. She probably ends up taking the swords from Bruce, because it's not like she can't.
High end skill and stats so far above his weight class its like Captain America trying to slug it out with somebody like Gray Hulk. In a forum fight, one hit is all it will take from her to end it.
I think he's done it in Nu-52 as well, and they showcased in that story how his plans weren't perfect. Like for dealing with Flash, a majority of the plan was basically hoping that Flash didn't go as fast as he could. If he had gone even a tiny bit faster, Batman would have been screwed and he said so himself.
Originally posted by Stoicthere are countless characters astronomically stronger than Gamora but are slower. Strength in comics doesn't determine speed at all. We go by feats. Batman's feats shits on hers. That is a fact. His reactions and sheer movement speed is beyond her best feat. Give me her best feat and I'll give you 3 for batman that shit on it.
But he isn't faster based on feats. You are correct, the stronger opponent is faster in terms of initial burst speeds, but their bulk would slow them down over a prolonged period of time. Gamora is not bulky. By feats she is much faster, and her stats are much better. Reflexes, and agility are different things as well. Strength does affect agility, as does size, and weight.What intent are you arguing here? Blood lusted isn't mentioned in the OP. KO or to the death is. batman by character would be going for the KO. Gamora by character, would see the swords, and go for the kill. She would kill him, just like Zealot would kill. him. Gamora would simply be able to do it easier. Didn't you say that you thought that she would wipe the floor with him? If so stick to it, because you are correct, she will kill him.
Angela is much faster than Batman, and Gamora reacted, and blocked every killing blow that she threw her way. You may not be aware of their battle, but now you are. What you are doing is comparing the lethargic strong characters that Batman has danced around to Gamora.
Tell you what, why don't you mathematically prove that Batman is faster than she is based on both of their stats? You should do that.
Finally, your science sucks. If someone is 3 times stronger than her but weigh twice her weight then they should be faster than her right? According to real science right? But that's never the case in comics is it. We go by feats. Otherwise you are trolling.
And how would Batman ko her with shit that slices you in half? Either he drops the swords or uses then to slice her into ribbons.
Originally posted by h1a8
there are countless characters astronomically stronger than Gamora but are slower. Strength in comics doesn't determine speed at all. We go by feats. Batman's feats shits on hers. That is a fact. His reactions and sheer movement speed is beyond her best feat. Give me her best feat and I'll give you 3 for batman that shit on it.Finally, your science sucks. If someone is 3 times stronger than her but weigh twice her weight then they should be faster than her right? According to real science right? But that's never the case in comics is it. We go by feats. Otherwise you are trolling.
And how would Batman ko her with shit that slices you in half? Either he drops the swords or uses then to slice her into ribbons.
Of ALL the people on the forum, you're the last person I would've imagined would call someone out because comics and RL science don't match up, what with your calculations of 50 Earth weights of force.
With katanas, you can also hit people over the head with the hilt, with a hammer fist type of attack. The adamantium blades would also ensure that the person you're fighting (who's class whatever) won't grab then snap the thin metal.
Originally posted by h1a8
His reactions and sheer movement speed is beyond her best feat. Give me her best feat and I'll give you 3 for batman that shit on it.
I would like 3 feats, please, where Batman takes on an army either LARGER than this one, or in a shorter time. Including tank flipping etc.
So knocking out 59 armed soldiers, destroying two tanks, and a boat craft thing, whilst covering....100, 150 metres? In 8 minutes. Three feats. That shit on that.
