Batman vs Gamora...

Started by DarkSaint8516 pages

Oh weight wise I know, its given in handbooks as 105lbs.

I was just wondering in terms of volume, how much there was. The surface area of human bones is around 0.5km^2, so I was wondering how thick the covering was. Assume its a nanometre thick?

Originally posted by Stoic
Wolverine is 5'3. Let's work with that. A 5'3 man that is in better shape than Olympic athletes would weigh roughly between 125-150lbs. Logan weighs 215lbs. This gives us a rough idea of how much Adamantium was pumped into his body.

He's usually closer to 300 lbs isn't he?

Originally posted by h1a8
there are countless characters astronomically stronger than Gamora but are slower. Strength in comics doesn't determine speed at all. We go by feats. Batman's feats shits on hers. That is a fact. His reactions and sheer movement speed is beyond her best feat. Give me her best feat and I'll give you 3 for batman that shit on it.

Finally, your science sucks. If someone is 3 times stronger than her but weigh twice her weight then they should be faster than her right? According to real science right? But that's never the case in comics is it. We go by feats. Otherwise you are trolling.
And how would Batman ko her with shit that slices you in half? Either he drops the swords or uses then to slice her into ribbons.

You are wrong again. The Hulk for example is faster than Gamora, and of course far stronger. Speed does not mean agility, skill, or the ability to read a persons movements before they commit to making a move (telegraph). If you put the Hulk up against Gamora in a foot race she would be dusted, this does not mean that he can easily hit her. While he is faster, he is also bulkier, being far larger. It's kind of like Wildcat beating the hell out of Grundy, without being touched. You want to use comics when they suit you, but ignore them when they don't. Then you attempt to play the troll card, when it is you that does exactly what you accuse others of.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's usually closer to 300 lbs isn't he?

I honestly thought that he was 215.

Oh and h1a8, Batman would drop the swords, and attempt to take her on without them, because he's not going to slice anyone up in character, or attempt to go for the kill. More evidence points to this, than your ideas of him actually acting like Jason Voorhees.

Yeah he's roughly 300 lbs and it's often referenced how heavy he is for being such a little guy.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah he's roughly 300 lbs and it's often referenced how heavy he is for being such a little guy.

Okay, then they changed it, because they used to list him at 215lbs. They also had a handbook entry of him being 195 lbs, which is quite heavy for a man of his shape, and height alone. So it's closer to 300 lbs now? Cool.

Originally posted by Stoic
Oh and h1a8, Batman would drop the swords, and attempt to take her on without them, because he's not going to slice anyone up in character, or attempt to go for the kill. More evidence points to this, than your ideas of him actually acting like Jason Voorhees.
Then what will be the point of giving him adamantium swords in the first place when all he is going to do is drop them? The OP could have said Batman vs. Gamora without mentioning adamantium swords at all.
Is it to test are logic ability by giving us a test? Was that the OP's intentions?

The point is that the OP doesn't say that Batman is bloodlusted, nor did he take into account how heavy adamantium actually is.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then what will be the point of giving him adamantium swords in the first place when all he is going to do is drop them? The OP could have said Batman vs. Gamora without mentioning adamantium swords at all.
Is it to test are logic ability by giving us a test? Was that the OP's intentions?

He may attempt to use the reverse sides of the blades if anything, but he's not going in trying to cut her arms or limbs off. He may not even be able to do this, because Thanos replaced her entire skeleton with titanium bones. When she was a child, she did well in fending off a group of alien thugs but lost, and had nearly every bone of hers broken. Back to the topic. Batman would either use the swords reverse edge like Rouroni Kenshin, or no blades at all, because of his character. We can't ever forget character, because if we did, we would be able to ignore things like a characters aptitude to fight, and their experiences.

Venom is without a doubt stronger than Batman. Are we all in agreement? This automatically means that his initial burst speeds are greater than Batman's because he has greater strength to propel himself forward at a greater rate of speed than Batman does. Are we all still in agreement on this? This is important to note, because when a character is very close, and has these kinds of initial burst speeds, it shows that she would actually have the ability to dodge many of Batman's strikes. Sprinter's need powerful glutes, and shoulders to propel them forward. This all has to do with strength.

Originally posted by ODG

Batman is superhumanly strong...

The weight of the swords is a nonfactor here:

Edit: I wish I had a higher res scan of this, but Bruce Wayne hits the punching bag so hard that the chain holding it breaks...

Like I said, superhuman strength...

Depends on the weight of the swords.

Yes, he's crazy strong - but carrying 95kg extra? You're telling me he has reflex feats on par with Gamora whilst holding 45kg in each hand? This I need to see.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, it coats his bones. So there is a thin coating which is bonded to his bones.

This thin coating weighs 100lb. You erred in assuming his skeleton was 100% adamantium, when we know this is NOT the case. When the adamantium was stripped, he had bones underneath. Where did you get a density of 4-8 times?

I didn't err. I stated the entire skeleton to get a basis for a laced skeleton. Please reread my post. You would see that I actually claim a laced skeleton.

If Logan's skeleton is entirely adamantium (it's not) then the density of adamantium can be calculated to approximately 4kg/m^3. Steel is over 8kg/m^3. So a 2lb katana sword would weigh 1lb in adamantium.

Now since Logan's skeleton is not entirely adamantium but rather a fraction of it. Reducing the volume and keeping the weight increases the density.
So if 1/6 of Logan's skeleton is adamantium while retaining the weight (100lb) then we can increase the density 6 more times and thus the weight of an adamantium sword goes from 1lb to 6lb. This is just a rough estimate. For example if adamantium is 1/8 of his skeleton then the sword would weight 8lb.

You don't listen very well, do you? his skeleton doesn't weigh 100 pounds because of the adamantium....he has over 100 pounds of adamantium bonded to his skeleton.

IOW, it's weight of his skeleton + 100 pounds of adamantium. and not skeleton + weight of admantium = 100 pounds.

A guy Logan's size would normally be like 125lbs if that. He's 5'3.(almost legally a midget) But he's billed at 300lbs in pretty much every handbook. Which means the Adamantium coating/lace is an extra 200lbs give or take.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman is superhumanly strong...

The weight of the swords is a nonfactor here:

Edit: I wish I had a higher res scan of this, but Bruce Wayne hits the punching bag so hard that the chain holding it breaks...

Like I said, superhuman strength...

If Gamora hit the bag it would break the chain, and fly through the wall and midway into the adjacent building. Her kicks flip tanks.

Originally posted by Stoic
If Gamora hit the bag it would break the chain, and fly through the wall and midway into the adjacent building. She kicks over tanks.

Wouldn't the bag simply explode from the amount of force? The sand would probably shoot out like shotgun pellets though.

I like how h1 is proving that his numbers are just made up BS that have no basis in reality.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wouldn't the bag simply explode from the amount of force? The sand would probably shoot out like shotgun pellets though.

Yeah it would ha ha, but I was just saying that the energy behind a blow of hers would be far greater than the Batman's. It also depends on what the outer layer of the heavy bag was made of. LOL. Good one brother.