Originally posted by Silent Master
The point is that the OP doesn't say that Batman is bloodlusted, nor did he take into account how heavy adamantium actually is.
Originally posted by h1a8
So you are admitting that the OP didn't intend on Batman dropping the swords at the beginning of battle but that he intended on Batman ACTUALLY USING THE SWORDS IN BATTLE?
Using, yes. Killing, maiming, no.
Again, standard equipment means Batman ALWAYS has pretty lethal stuff on him. Hell, he has lethal weapons in the form of his hands. He still doesn't kill.
Originally posted by Stoic
He may attempt to use the reverse sides of the blades if anything, but he's not going in trying to cut her arms or limbs off. He may not even be able to do this, because Thanos replaced her entire skeleton with titanium bones. When she was a child, she did well in fending off a group of alien thugs but lost, and had nearly every bone of hers broken. Back to the topic. Batman would either use the swords reverse edge like Rouroni Kenshin, or no blades at all, because of his character. We can't ever forget character, because if we did, we would be able to ignore things like a characters aptitude to fight, and their experiences.
Adamantium can cut through any conventional material with utmost ease. Super strength isn't needed in most showings where Logan slices through shit FAR more durable than titanium. Logan can slice through titanium like a hot knife through butter and on average Logan is not that much stronger than Batman.
So if Logan can on average slice through stuff many times more durable than titanium while NOT being many times stronger than Batman then Batman can indeed slice through titanium.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85How would it be possible to use the swords to ko as an advantage of not even having the swords at all?
Using, yes. Killing, maiming, no.Again, standard equipment means Batman ALWAYS has pretty lethal stuff on him. Hell, he has lethal weapons in the form of his hands. He still doesn't kill.
In other words, answer this question:
1. How can Batman use swords to ko Gamora when they are only for stabbing and slicing?
No need to answer since we all know that the OP didn't create Batman to use Admantium SWORDS so that he can hit her with the blunt side (assuming non double edge). He would created Batman to use adamantium clubs instead. Common sense should dictate that the OP intended on Batman using the swords for their actual purpose (slicing and stabbing).
Originally posted by h1a8
So you are admitting that the OP didn't intend on Batman dropping the swords at the beginning of battle but that he intended on Batman ACTUALLY USING THE SWORDS IN BATTLE?
As pointed out Batman's standard equipment is able to kill, yet he has a rule against killing, therefore giving him another lethal weapon isn't proof that he is supposed to be bloodlusted.
The fact remains, the OP doesn't say Batman is bloodlusted.
Originally posted by h1a8
How would it be possible to use the swords to ko as an advantage of not even having the swords at all?In other words, answer this question:
1. How can Batman use swords to ko Gamora when they are only for stabbing and slicing?
Hammer blow with the hilt of the sword. Smacking with the flat (harder, admittedly, due to weight and air resistance).
They also make handy shields.
Originally posted by Silent Master
As pointed out Batman's standard equipment is able to kill, yet he has a rule against killing, therefore giving him another lethal weapon isn't proof that he is supposed to be bloodlusted.The fact remains, the OP doesn't say Batman is bloodlusted.
So you are admitting that the OP didn't intend on Batman dropping the swords at the beginning of battle but that he intended on Batman ACTUALLY USING THE SWORDS IN BATTLE?
And in what way did the OP actually intend on Batman using the swords to help him achieve a ko besides from their ACTUAL PURPOSE of slicing and stabbing?
Originally posted by h1a8
So you are admitting that the OP didn't intend on Batman dropping the swords at the beginning of battle but that he intended on Batman ACTUALLY USING THE SWORDS IN BATTLE?And in what way did the OP actually intend on Batman using the swords to help him achieve a ko besides from their ACTUAL PURPOSE of slicing and stabbing?
I get that you want to ignore forum rules, but the fact remains that the OP doesn't place Batman in bloodlust.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85LOL, So it was the original intention of the OP that Batman will use the swords to only hit her with the flat side, hammer blow her with the hilt, and use them as a shield.
Hammer blow with the hilt of the sword. Smacking with the flat (harder, admittedly, due to weight and air resistance).They also make handy shields.
I'm thinking you are reaching here.
Bottomline, we know the OP's intention. Now he may not have stated things exactly. So do we go by his intentions or what he said? This is what should be argued.
P.S. we all know that the OP believes Gamora >>>> Batman. That is why he created Batman to use adamantium swords in order to even up the fight. If Batman doesn't actually use them as the OP intended then what would be the purpose of the debate? To argue semantics? That's silly. Let's just be reasonable and go by what the OP meant. Otherwise, this thread should be closed and a new one created where Batman uses adamantium swords which weigh the same as normal katanas and that Batman is bloodlusted.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI'm not ignoring forum rules as I'm not arguing about who wins and why from my other posts. I'm just stating that you understand the OP's intentions but want to lie on him by stating he changed his intentions after he saw the poll (where it was still votes for Batman). I'm just stating that you want to invoke forum rules although you know what the OP meant. I'm just stating that forum rules may not be broken if the intention of the OP can be proven, although he didn't state it clearly.
I get that you want to ignore forum rules, but the fact remains that the OP doesn't place Batman in bloodlust.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not ignoring forum rules. I'm just stating that you understand the OP's intentions but want to lie on him by stating he changed his intentions after he saw the poll (where it was still votes for Batman). I'm just stating that you want to invoke forum rules although you know what the OP meant. I'm just stating that forum rules may not be broken if the can be proven the intention of the OP although he didn't state it clearly.
Per forum rules, people act in character unless specifically stated otherwise, the OP never stated bloodlust, thus per forum rules Batman is acting in character.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@DarkSaint and Silent MasterLets put this to bed...
Why do you think I gave Batman two Primary Adamantium Swords?
Do you think I intended for him to tickle her with them? Do you think I intended for him to hit her with the sword hilt?
If you answered yes to either them you are a d@m fool; the implication is that he has them to slice and dice...
You both d@m well know this; why are you arguing otherwise?
Being straight up with you guys, normal Batman cannot win this fight...
I know this, you know this, we all know this...
He needs the ability to score a one-hit-kill to have a realistic chance of winning...
And my solution for him having the capablility to do this was to have him weild Primary Adamantium Katana's...
You both know this; its easily deduced, so please stop being @ssholes about the wording...
👆
Originally posted by Silent MasterSo I was right. You care nothing about the intentions of the OP and more about semantics of what he wrote so that Gamora won't lose.
Per forum rules, people act in character unless specifically stated otherwise, the OP never stated bloodlust, thus per forum rules Batman is acting in character.
It's your choice really. You can pursue the forum rules by getting a mod ruling (arguing what was stated vs. what was meant) or argue that Gamora will still win because the adamantium swords will weigh Batman down.
Either way, a thread will exist where Batman fights with adamantium swords bloodlusted. Even if one has to be created with EXACT wording.
Originally posted by h1a8
So I was right. You care nothing about the intentions of the OP and more about semantics of what he wrote so that Gamora won't lose.It's your choice really. You can pursue the forum rules by getting a mod ruling (arguing what was stated vs. what was meant) or argue that Gamora will still win because the adamantium swords will weigh Batman down.
Either way, a thread will exist where Batman fights with adamantium swords bloodlusted. Even if one has to be created with EXACT wording.
IOW I was right, you want to ignore forum rules.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW I was right, you want to ignore forum rules.
How so? I'm not arguing who wins and why they win in my posts to you or that if Batman is bloodlusted here. I'm basically stating the fact of you arguing semantics and not intentions and that another thread with exact wording will be created if need be.
So how is that ignoring forum rules?
Originally posted by h1a8
How so? I'm not arguing who wins and why they win in my posts to you or that if Batman is bloodlusted here. I'm basically stating the fact of you arguing semantics and not intentions and that another thread with exact wording will be created if need be.So how is that ignoring forum rules?
Forum rules state that people are in character unless stated otherwise.
Yes or no?
The opening post mentions bloodlust.
Yes or no?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Forum rules state that people are in character unless stated otherwise.Yes or no?
That has nothing to do with my discussion to you. You are the only one talking about forum rules. I'm not arguing forum rules with you. I'm basically discussing your intent on lying on the OP by stating he changed the intentions after and that he originally never meant for Batman to use the swords to slice and dice, nothing more.
You are basically changing the subject by ignoring my post and speaking of forum rules. This is called deflection.
Originally posted by Silent MasterNo you haven't. You lied in one of your posts stating that the OP changed his intentions (that he meant for Batman to ko Gamora only) after he saw the poll. That is not talking about forum rules but lying on someone.
I have been talking about the rules this entire time, you are the one trying to deflect the conversation. However it seems that you have basically admitted that the rules state the people are in character and that the OP doesn't mention bloodlust, thus we appear to be done here.Gamora wins.
A mod ruling can remedy this since clear intentions are known although not stated.