Of the canon Sith... who is truly evil?

Started by Marco19074 pages

Lol @ darthant66's hypocrisy.

What were you saying in this thread ?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=603986&pagenumber=1

Not to mention, that is your inconsistent claim on Darth Maul. Count Dooku described Maul as a ''Great Sith Lord'' in TCW Canon. Only a true Sith could survive from being cut in half. Maul needs some respect in here. Not to mention he was capable of being a ''rival'' to Darth Sidious, what an expandable assassin he was...

Bane always came off as more sociopathic than malicious to me. I don't recall him really enjoying doing evil stuff so much as just not caring and being pretty emotionally dead. His most evil act was done to save his own life, though it was super evil.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Lol @ darthant66's hypocrisy.

What were you saying in this thread ?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=603986&pagenumber=1

Not to mention, that is your inconsistent claim on Darth Maul. Count Dooku described Maul as a ''Great Sith Lord'' in TCW Canon. Only a true Sith could survive from being cut in half. Maul needs some respect in here. Not to mention he was capable of being a ''rival'' to Darth Sidious, what an expandable assassin he was...


This is canon, not Legends. Maul's backstory isn't the same.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This is canon, not Legends. Maul's backstory isn't the same.

What is legends ? Dooku himself called him ''great sith lord'' in a TCW episode. Which is canon.

Darth Sidious also called him ''Lord Maul'' which is movie canon.

YouTube video

Dooku is more evil then Maul, because he turned evil after a LIFETIME of being good. He became evil in his 70s. Maul, however, was trained from a young age.

Also, smart evil tends to be more evil then dumb evil.

Vader definitively wins the least evil title simply because the man who died on the 2nd Death Star was no longer Darth Vader.

Vader is even less evil than Dooku because there was still good in Vader by RotS, and RotJ, and also in the EU. We never heard any thing about Dooku's goodness, he was kind of a polite poltician and not a cold-blooded killer and wild like Sidious and Maul really is.

On the flip-side, Dooku never annihilated an entire planet.

Originally posted by Nephthys
On the flip-side, Dooku never annihilated an entire planet.

Death Star you mean ? I thought that was Tarkin's business.

Vader stood there and implicitly approved of it.

Well, he couldn't do anything even if he wanted to, since the command of the Death Star was belong to Tarkin.

Alderaan cannot be blamed on Vader. That was all Tarkin's evil cookie.

On the other hand, torturing his daughter, killing children, and making his wife die of grief definitively ARE his fault.

...buuuut. Vader was faced with another choice. The choice between Sidious and Luke. And he chose rightly that time. It doesn't make the billions of lives he ended or ruined come back to life...but the Force itself, and his son, forgave him. And that was more then any Sith since TOR got.

My favorite video on YouTube, respect Vader:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0jVPXJo5U3s

He is worthy of respect...not for who he was, but for who he became once more.

Empire>Rebellion.

Redemption>Empire

Originally posted by psmith81992
I don't think grilled cheese exists in the SW universe.
And we think of them as advanced. Bah.

Originally posted by Nephthys
On the flip-side, Dooku never annihilated an entire planet.

No, but he was directly responsible for massive destruction and death across many many planets.

What's worse:

An X amount of billions dying piece-meal over several years in various conditions for various situational reasons?

Or X amount of billions dying rapidly in a few microseconds from the same thing?

Indirect slower accumulation of a body count, or mostly direct consent to an immediate accumulation of a body count?

Blowing up a planet is certainly more dramatic...

But to those killed? The people on the exploded planet probably suffered less.

Particularly since all you can pin on Vader is that he chose not to stop Tarkin. Which is expected, because he hadn't met his son yet.

Of all the people able to put a stop to Alderaan's destruction, Vader was in the best possible position. He had the authority within the Empire, the clout with the Emperor, the fear of his subordinates, the supernatural power, and the immediate proximity to Tarkin and the station's command center.

And his only words regarding the planet's destruction were... silence. Silent consent, and not a thought afterward. That's Elsa-levels of cold-blooded right there. Tarkin's just as wicked for ordering it himself, but letting the guy go through with it when you're perfectly capable of stopping him--because you don't give a shit... that's f*cked.

At least Dooku's body count was spread out among multiple subordinates and scenarios that he was mostly absent for.