Quicksilver vs Edward

Started by Time Immemorial7 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
It's more likely that he didn't want to punch their heads off.

If he had regular human durability, his finger would have been shattered upon impact.

His greatest feat was against humans. Going beyond that against speeders with strength and massive durability is another story.

It's like saying "he touched those people with his finger and look what happened so if he punched someone can could hurt Thor or Hulk."

You can't go the speeds he was hitting without enhanced durability and strength(muscle, bones, skin). Otherwise he'd basically break apart the faster he went. A single step at that speed would obliterate him.

Originally posted by KingD19
All I'm saying is if he was jogging around and imparting that much force by tapping people. The amount of force he could generate if he hit full speed and punched or kicked as hard as he could should be able to hurt a Twi-vamp.

2 problems with this theory:

1. Those guards didn't suffer broken or cracked heads or bodies that we know of. Being pushed is different from getting hit. QS can push Edward around all day, still don't see how he can actually HURT Edward.

2. You are basically theorizing that he should be able to generate greater force with greater speed... but there's no proof to that. What if hits someone at full speed with a full punch and the increase in strength is minimal? What if there truly is an increase in strength but it's still not enough to punch through concrete? You can't base all of these on an assumption.

Originally posted by KingD19
You can't go the speeds he was hitting without enhanced durability and strength(muscle, bones, skin). Otherwise he'd basically break apart the faster he went. A single step at that speed would obliterate him.

Incorrect, his body has what it needs to sustain his powerset. Can you show me any speedster that cannot get hurt like anyone else.

No proof other to suggest he can take on people like Edward who has proven durability. Flash in Smallville was astronomically faster then QS and he still could get hurt like anyone else.

Getting durability/DC from speed doesn't really work when it comes to fictional characters, you judge that from amount of energy they've dished out/attacks they've been shown to tank

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Getting durability/DC from speed doesn't really work when it comes to fictional characters, you judge that from amount of energy they've dished out/attacks they've been shown to tank

You are a gentleman and a scholar. Very well put.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
His greatest feat was against humans. Going beyond that against speeders with strength and massive durability is another story.

It's like saying "he touched those people with his finger and look what happened so if he punched someone can could hurt Thor or Hulk."

It's actually not at all like saying that...

Why couldn't QS just run Edward into something that would kill him over and over again? He's got that level of speed.

People forget that Edward also has a decent amount of super speed. Sure he may not be as fast as QS, but I doubt he'll be standing still like those guards were.

Originally posted by KingD19
All I'm saying is if he was jogging around and imparting that much force by tapping people. The amount of force he could generate if he hit full speed and punched or kicked as hard as he could should be able to hurt a Twi-vamp.

Precisely, my good sir.

Originally posted by FrothByte
People forget that Edward also has a decent amount of super speed. Sure he may not be as fast as QS, but I doubt he'll be standing still like those guards were.
Is he significantly faster than bullets?

If not, he may as well be standing still for all the good it will do him.

Edward's Mach 200+?

I didn't think so either

Originally posted by Mindset
It's actually not at all like saying that...

You can't even debate. You just sit and throw sticks. Try learning the point you are trying to get across instead of "no!"

Still don't see anyone providing proof that QS can hurt Edward...

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You can't even debate. You just sit and throw sticks. Try learning the point you are trying to get across instead of "no!"
You responded to my last post with a nonsensical strawman.

The appropriate response would be to tell you that you were an idiot, but I was being nice.

Originally posted by Mindset
You responded to my last post with a nonsensical strawman.

The appropriate response would be to tell you that you were an idiot, but I was being nice.

Ur not even on topic. If you have something to add to the debate, go ahead, if not, find someone else to troll.

Um... Quicksilver dominates Edward. He was able to touch moving bullets with his index finger, and generate the force to move them without them simply going through his finger. He processes time differently than Edward does, meaning he could have put his fist through his head before Edward saw anything more than a gray streak.

And yes, QS would be able to put his hand through Edwards face, since QS taking steps at his casual speed obliterated the concrete walls of the pentagon, all while he was smiling and sampling some soup.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um... Quicksilver dominates Edward. He was able to touch moving bullets with his index finger, and generate the force to move them without them simply going through his finger. He processes time differently than Edward does, meaning he could have put his fist through his head before Edward saw anything more than a gray streak.

And yes, QS would be able to put his hand through Edwards face, since QS taking steps at his casual speed obliterated the concrete walls of the pentagon, all while he was smiling and sampling some soup.

Nope based on feats he took out some humans with human durability with no speed feats.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No proof other to suggest he can take on people like Edward who has proven durability. Flash in Smallville was astronomically faster then QS and he still could get hurt like anyone else.

Best quote in this thread that everyone is ignoring. While QS MAY have some increased durability, there is no reason to believe he could easily put his fist through a concrete wall, let alone a greatly tougher twi vamp without it shattering. There is literally no proof that could be provided to show otherwise. Especially since no other speedsters..even those faster than DOFP QS showed such durability and fortitude. All of a sudden QS is a speeding tank? ..to the point of even being matched with guys like Supes. lol naw, he can run circles around edward but he aint denting him. As someone else stated the twi vamps were busting marble like it was cardboard. When I see QS going through walls then I'll believe it.

Originally posted by Mindset
Is he significantly faster than bullets?

If not, he may as well be standing still for all the good it will do him.

I've forgotten that the bullets were also barely moving when QS does his superspeed thing. I withdraw my argument about Edward's super speed.