Darth Vader vs. Darth Bane - Sabers Only

Yeah, particularly with Filoni saying it wasn't going to be like Boba Fett and the Sarlaac, with Vizsla actually putting up a good fight.

That being said, I use it as a feat for Vizsla rather than an insult to Maul's ability.

Here's more explanations from Filoni on that fight. See if it still sounds to anyone like Maul "Was Acting out the whole fight":

I had always wondered as a kid, what would it be like if a Boba Fett, Mandalorian guy in the prime of his life with technology fought a Force wielder? Here I am, 38 years old, and I have an opportunity to put that up on screen, so that was awesome to do.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=606229&from=thread&pagenumber=3#post15009341

That's the second time he's referred to that fight by saying it was showing us a Force wielder vs mandalorian armor.

Now it's reasonable to speculate that Maul didn't use TK because he wanted to win the fight in a more legit way. But it's not reasonable to take Filoni's comments there and say "Oh look Maul was just acting." Just because you heard the word "Act" from an out of Universe perspective is no reason to grasp for straws.

Originally posted by Trocity
You know what.. I interpreted it as Maul was "acting" at first, but rereading it with your interpretation in mind, it also makes sense.

That's fair enough 👆. I get if someone might have misinterpreted at first, but it shouldn't take much explanation to get what Filoni is actually saying there.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You're not the smartest guy on the block are you?

"That's a Whole Act," does not equate to "Maul is Acting."

An Act in a play is a significant part of the play. Like this fight was a significant part of the episode.

This sword fight - is an act. Do it right, make it exciting - that's a whole act.

Which clearly means that one party was acting like this was an exciting fight when in reality there is a clear winner. I wonder who it is.

because the fans of Pre Vizsla, are gonna mob me at Celebration in the future if, if Vizsla goes down too easily.

Oh.

Originally posted by ILS
No offence DP, but after posting here for a short time it became quickly apparent that if any user here was to be accoladed as the most mentally deficient Star Wars debater to ever grace a keyboard, it'd be you. From there I've only ever heard as much from other users both directly and indirectly. I'm not sure why you're slinging mud at me over my interpretation of this quote anyway but, shit, have some back, by all means.

This sword fight - is an act. Do it right, make it exciting - that's a whole act.

Which clearly means that one party was acting like this was an exciting fight when in reality there is a clear winner. I wonder who it is.

because the fans of Pre Vizsla, are gonna mob me at Celebration in the future if, if Vizsla goes down too easily.

Oh.

You do realize you're probably the only remaining person here who doesn't get Filoni's meaning in that sentence after it being thoroughly explained to you right?

Either you're very dumb or just too damn arrogant to admit you were wrong.

So you calling me mentally deficient right now is frankly completely laughable.

With the full context, it does indeed appear to be the way you said.

It's obvious Maul was not using the force to enhance his speed. I guess Jedi/Sith fight at that speed anyway in TCW but as an "EU explanation", Maul did not move in blurs or faster than Vizsla could react to, so they were fighting on skill alone. Perhaps this is a feat in favor of Vizsla rather than a effortless contest for Maul.

Bane doesn't even deserve to be in the top 20 let alone # 2. This is a guy who got his ass kicked by trainees, needed armor and a nexus amp to kill featless Jedi, and whose only notable victory is Sirak. He isn't better than a guy that can kill a Maul doppleganger, beat Obi wan Kenobi, and fight evenly with Luke and kill 5 Jed at once just weeks into his suit.

Vader would LOLSTOMP Bane horribly in a duel.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You do realize you're probably the only remaining person here who doesn't get Filoni's meaning in that sentence after it being thoroughly explained to you right?

Either you're very dumb or just too damn arrogant to admit you were wrong.

So you calling me mentally deficient right now is frankly completely laughable.

I love how carthage is always in the background somewhere explaining how shit Bane is in-detail.

LOL

You just saw some random guy put him just underneath Luke Skywalker, it just has to be done at this point.

Originally posted by Lighter332
But Luke would trash-stomp Bane - he's the only person who is solidly faster than Bane. (based on feats)

Well at least he admits Luke is faster.

Bane wouldn't even beat ROTJ Luke, unless FOTJ Luke was dying of cancer and had no limbs Bane couldn't win.

Originally posted by carthage
You just saw some random guy put him just underneath Luke Skywalker, it just has to be done at this point.

Most Bane fans are, ranking him among powerful Sith is saddening.

Bane literally needs a nexus to do everything.

Bane is the steroid Sith

You need to read the Bane trilogy and discover the truth of my words. You will see padawan, Bane needs to have an infusion of nexus energy. He is a junkie

If not as a nexus-addict, do you at least like him as a character?

No he is more or less fodder for strong Sith to come into being, he literally just goes from point A to point B in the book getting holocrons and getting 00ber because of amps. He isn't interesting in the least.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
I'm more of the opinion that the suit taught Vader humility...something he desperately needed. Anakin's body with Vader's experience and humility would've owned Obi Wan on Mustafar. Pretty much ALL of Vader's skills...saber and force...improved drastically as cyborgVader, despite his potential taking a nosedive. Indeed, if ROTJ Vader fought ROTS Vader/Anakin, the cyborg would defeat his younger self handily.

Some things in life, poor old Ani just isn't going to learn till he loses a limb or 3.

Anakin & Prime Obi-Wan > Vader in sabers,

even Old Ben Kenobi could've killed Vader in the blink of an eye.

He did not wish them to interfere, but to even warn them of would take concentration that he could not afford at the moment. Should his attention falter, Obi-Wan could kill him in the blink of an eye.

----Source: Death Star

I would expect if your attention faltered against most skilled duelists, they would kill you rather quickly, especially when we are talking about force sensitives who can move that fast.