Oh I get it, so basically the age old tripe of "but low end showings count as evidence too!", which you know, they don't and are contradicted by everything else in the series, especially considering Buu tank attacks from the Z fighters, who are well into the sub-relativistic, large planet busting range
Then again, remember guiz, Mach 5 Freiza Saga
EDIT: Also, don't appeal to guns, guns are overrated as shit in fiction and are always shown harming characters they feasibly shouldn't, this is nothing new
Anime characters don't get the low showing argument, they have only 1 writer... their creator & don't have nearly the number of showings that negate showings
Buu was vaporized by the planet buster, and then reformed.
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Also lol @ guns being over powered in the comic medium, the sheer number of people either dodging or tanking them with little to no explanation is huge.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Anime characters don't get the low showing argument, they have only 1 writer... their creator & don't have nearly the number of showings that negate showings
Special pleading fallacy. Doesn't change the fact that fictions are generally inconsistent and showings will vary regardless
Seriously, this is the same logic Moses and his MVC brigade use
Buu was vaporized by the planet buster, and then reformed.
Vaporised by the planet exploding, which was calc'd at small star level, the fact DBZ characters bust up mountains and shit physically and can survive attacks from eachother generally overrides Buu being harmed by a gun in any case (though Buu has a very elastic body so, yeah)
Also lol @ guns being over powered in the comic medium, the sheer number of people either dodging or tanking them with little to no explanation is huge.
Doesn't change the fact that fictions generally have guns harming characters they shouldn't be
The reason we have things like Pis is for characters who are written by people who don't know the character, the creator & sole writer can't be written off or your arguing showings bias.
Goku isn't Buu. Buu was just healing from blows, that's not durability.
Lol @ trying to reach, planet buster = planet buster
Nonpoint at this point, it happened no matter how much it upsets you. Removing Buu and focusing on Goku his durability is still fairly wonkey with an obvious slant toward protection from energy attacks. I've theorized that the energy shroud function much like a GL shield where it can repel energy but can give way to more powerful physical blows.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
The reason we have things like Pis is for characters who are written by people who don't know the character, the creator & sole writer can't be written off or your arguing showings bias.
Moar special pleading, still doesn't change the fact that fictional showings won't be completely consistent, and being harmed by a bullet once does not contradict every other durability feat in the series ever
But yeah, you either take the same logic in fiction, or you don't take said logic at all, otherwise you look like a complete hypcrite
Goku isn't Buu. Buu was just healing from blows, that's not durability.
And DBZ characters survive attacks from eachother, and they bust up mountains physically and kick eachother through islands, causing massive craters in the process
Lol @ trying to reach, planet buster = planet buster
It genuinely sickens me to see people who fail to see that there are different levels of planet busting
Planets come in different sizes and have varying GBE levels
Nonpoint at this point, it happened no matter how much it upsets you. Removing Buu and focusing on Goku his durability is still fairly wonkey with an obvious slant toward protection from energy attacks. I've theorized that the energy shroud function much like a GL shield where it can repel energy but can give way to more powerful physical blows.
"I'll take a single low end showing and act like that invalidates everything else which is way above it"
Unfortunately for you, vs debating doesn't work that way
"I'll take a single low end showing and act like that invalidates everything else which is way above it"Unfortunately for you, vs debating doesn't work that way
vs debates work however they feel like working at the time, and frankly I'd rather it not devolve into 'character with the most math-wanked outlier wins'.
Originally posted by AstnerSo basically kid Goku could run at ftl and outspeed a flash of light for a short period of time yet adult Goku couldn't reach that speed or anything close to it at all despite trying his best to cross Snake Way as soon as possible? The difference in speed is way too massive for that reasoning. You can easily argue for ftl reflexes and combat speed (as in punching and kicking) but anything other than those?
No. What he's saying is that there's a difference between short-distance coordination and long-distance coordination.