Colonial Marines versus Mobile Infantry, round three

Started by RJ 2.06 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
The only thing the Morita will be blowing off here will be CM heads, arms and legs

Also, this is you inadvertently admitting that the Morita > Pulse rifle in its ass. Got you

Lol no, witness:

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/%28Aliens%29_-_M56_Smart_Gun

Wallbang much? Plus we have established that the pulse rifle is a more penetrating round. Hello wallbang.

Be mad.

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol no, witness:

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/%28Aliens%29_-_M56_Smart_Gun

Wallbang much? Plus we have established that the pulse rifle is a more penetrating round. Hello wallbang.

Be mad.

Sorry, but this guy disagrees with you:

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Aahahaha you're an idiot. A harder hitting round causes more damage. More damage=More acid spray.

Be mad.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, but this guy disagrees with you:

A harder hitting round doesn't mean a more penetrating round. A more penetrating round means it goes through walls easier.

Dumbass.

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
A harder hitting round doesn't mean a more penetrating round. A more penetrating round means it goes through walls easier.

Dumbass.

Oh man, you should really know by now that Morita rounds can penetrate 2 inches of titanium. That's like metallic and stuff.

You seem upset, friend.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh man, you should really know by now that Morita rounds can penetrate 2 inches of titanium. That's like metallic and stuff.

You seem upset, friend.

Mhm, but it can't hold a candle to the smart gun.

YouTube video

LoL, that bulky and unwieldy weapon made for show. Any average MI with a Morita will be quicker and ventilate any "smart gun" wielder's dome; especially Vasquez's. The Morita snuffs out your candle

Lol, no. The MI never displayed any uber marksmanship. Vasquez and Blake can camp and spam the house and backyard, racking up kill after kill after kill.

Bulky and unwieldy? Read up on it, Champ.

And as always, be mad.

I think it's hard to comment on these CM MI match ups because we were only shown a glimpse of what the Colonial Marines are capable of. The CM squad that we were shown in the, Aliens movie were vastly under equipped, ill prepared and poorly led. In other words, they had no leadership, no intelligence and possessed only standard issues weapons. They were also led into a trap where they were supposed to fail. They were expected to die and become impregnated.

We saw the Mobile Infantry carry out maneuvers where they had the best leadership, full intelligence of the situation and a complete display of their arsenal and they still failed miserably. If the MI were led into the same situation under the same circumstances as the CM they would have failed as well.

If the CM have a fleet of dropships in this battle they will win and win easily. However, just from the arsenal we've seen the MI have at their disposal i'd have to say they win. This is coming from someone that knows exactly what the CM have access too. I have the Colonial MArines military manuals but those are expanded universe. Although, i don't think the M41-A pulse rifle and smart gun should be underrated. The Smart gun has auto lock capacity of up to a hundred meters.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think it's hard to comment on these CM MI match ups because we were only shown a glimpse of what the Colonial Marines are capable of. The CM squad that we were shown in the, Aliens movie were vastly under equipped, ill prepared and poorly led. In other words, they had no leadership, no intelligence and possessed only standard issues weapons. They were also led into a trap where they were supposed to fail. They were expected to die and become impregnated.

We saw the Mobile Infantry carry out maneuvers where they had the best leadership, full intelligence of the situation and a complete display of their arsenal and they still failed miserably. If the MI were led into the same situation under the same circumstances as the CM they would have failed as well.

If the CM have a fleet of dropships in this battle they will win and win easily. However, just from the arsenal we've seen the MI have at their disposal i'd have to say they win. This is coming from someone that knows exactly what the CM have access too. I have the Colonial MArines military manuals but those are expanded universe. Although, i don't think the M41-A pulse rifle and smart gun should be underrated. The Smart gun has auto lock capacity of up to a hundred meters.

I agree with all you said here, except that the MI have a greater arsenal than the CM.

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, no. The MI never displayed any uber marksmanship.

Vasquez and Blake can camp and spam the house and backyard, racking up kill after kill after kill.

Bulky and unwieldy? Read up on it, Champ.

And as always, be mad.

Except for not really missing their targets. MI accuracy > CM accuracy

LoL, campers. Campers get sniped.

Did; I was correct. Speaking of aim, Vasquez has shit aim, all she did was spray like a noob and waste ammo

Originally posted by Robtard
Except for not really missing their targets. MI accuracy > CM accuracy

LoL, campers. Campers get sniped.

Did; I was correct. Speaking of aim, Vasquez has shit aim, all she did was spray like a noob and waste ammo

Lol, how can anyone miss a big ass arachnid? Hell, even Doogie Howser was hitting one.

Lawlz, this is a real battle, not a Cod battle. These are real people fighting, not gamers. In real life, LMG campers>>>>Snipers.

You mean when she was retreating down the air duct? You do realize that she and the CM had limited ammo, yes? Check out the body count:

YouTube video

With limitd ammo, Vasquez managed to kill 21 Xenos.

Now, Rico's kill count:

YouTube video

37 kills.

Now, consider the fact that the movie "Aliens" took place over maybe 12 hours. Then consider that "Starship Troopers" took place over months. Also consider that most of Rico's kills, others assisted him.

If Vasquez has the timeframe and ammo count that Rico had, she would have gotten hundreds of kills.

So math dictates that Vasquez>>>>Rico.

LOL! Your math numbers are skewed, you're not factoring in that a Bug is worth at least 15 xenos, hell, Vasguez was killing Xenos with a simple sidearm, you try that with a Bug and you're going to end up skewered more times than naught

So maths:

37 x 15 = 555, Rico killed the equivalent of 555 Xenos. But that's still lowballing, since the mega-beetle he killed would easily be worth 1,000+ Xenos. So Rico killed the equivalent of 1,555+ Xenos. Go J. Rico!

J. Rico pwns again via maths

Rob that was a good fact-smash. Say "Be Mad" though and you're golden

Too late to edit, but he will be mad, bro. Real mad

Nice, man. Nice.

Originally posted by Robtard
LOL! Your math numbers are skewed, you're not factoring in that a Bug is worth at least 15 xenos,

That's a two way street, man.

Arachnids are bigger and harder to put down, and next to impossible to miss.

Xeno's are faster and easier to put down, but they are hard to hit due to their speed/stealth.

And no, an Arachnid is not worth 15 bugs. 4-5 tops. Let's say a group of 4-5 Xenos attack a lone arachnid. Sure, the arachnid is gonna kill the first couple easily, but the acid spray is gonna hinder it and the rest are gonna swarm it. Dead arachnid.

hell, Vasguez was killing Xenos with a simple sidearm, you try that with a Bug and you're going to end up skewered more times than naught
And so what that Vasquez used her sidearm? What was she supposed to do, sit there and spread eagle and wait for the DP? She was out of ammo, dude.

So maths:

37 x 15 = 555, Rico killed the equivalent of 555 Xenos. But that's still lowballing, since the mega-beetle he killed would easily be worth 1,000+ Xenos. So Rico killed the equivalent of 1,555+ Xenos. Go J. Rico!

J. Rico pwns again via maths

Lol, no. An arachnid, as I said, easily kills the first few Xenos that swarm it, but the acid blood takes it toll, and the arachnid goes down after it gets no more than a half dozen kills.

See, it's easy when you have a dozen people or so standing next to you, all firing at the same time at the same Arachnid. A Xenomorph? Too fast. Too agile. If the battle of Klendathu had been thousands of Xenos, Rico would have died horribly. As he lay there blasting away with his shotgun, the acid spray would take his face off.

And you keep ignoring:

1. Motion sensors. The CM will know where all the MI are at all times. It's like a constant Orbital VSAT.

2. Smart guns: No way in hell the MI have a weapon that can match smart guns.

3. Close quarters combat? Lol, if it goes CQC, the CM have secondary weapons such as pistols, and flamethrowers.

4. Noob tube: The CM have under barrel grenade launchers. The MI do not.

5. The MI's fighting style is literally advancing in a line, revolutionary war style.

So yeah, your "fact smash" is epic fail. And you have provided no counter for points 1-5 I have just posted.

So in the end, yes, be mad.

Originally posted by Quincy
Nice, man. Nice.
Aw, lookit the little cheerleader!!!

Too bad I took his "fact smash", rolled it up in a soft tortilla, deep fried it, and served it to him with a nice, tall glass of be mad.

Thank you for giving me the attention I deserved RJ dude.

What was the significance of the fried tortilla thing? You a big foodie guy? That's cool man. Gordita's and stuff? That's cool.

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
That's a two way street, man.

Arachnids are bigger and harder to put down, and next to impossible to miss.

Xeno's are faster and easier to put down, but they are hard to hit due to their speed/stealth.

And no, an Arachnid is not worth 15 bugs. 4-5 tops. Let's say a group of 4-5 Xenos attack a lone arachnid. Sure, the arachnid is gonna kill the first couple easily, but the acid spray is gonna hinder it and the rest are gonna swarm it. Dead arachnid.

And so what that Vasquez used her sidearm? What was she supposed to do, sit there and spread eagle and wait for the DP? She was out of ammo, dude.

Lol, no. An arachnid, as I said, easily kills the first few Xenos that swarm it, but the acid blood takes it toll, and the arachnid goes down after it gets no more than a half dozen kills.

See, it's easy when you have a dozen people or so standing next to you, all firing at the same time at the same Arachnid. A Xenomorph? Too fast. Too agile. If the battle of Klendathu had been thousands of Xenos, Rico would have died horribly. As he lay there blasting away with his shotgun, the acid spray would take his face off.

And you keep ignoring:

1. Motion sensors. The CM will know where all the MI are at all times. It's like a constant Orbital VSAT.

2. Smart guns: No way in hell the MI have a weapon that can match smart guns.

3. Close quarters combat? Lol, if it goes CQC, the CM have secondary weapons such as pistols, and flamethrowers.

4. Noob tube: The CM have under barrel grenade launchers. The MI do not.

5. The MI's fighting style is literally advancing in a line, revolutionary war style.

So yeah, your "fact smash" is epic fail. And you have provided no counter for points 1-5 I have just posted.

So in the end, yes, be mad.

No, it's a one way street and as usual you're going the wrong way

Agreed, Arachnids are a much bigger threat 👆

Xeno's are larger than humans, so do go pretending like it's trying to shoot a gopher, CMs just had so-so aim, it's likely due to them panicking in most engagements

LOL! Wrong, a Bug could kill 15-20 Xenos before it finally succumbed to the acid

Let me repeat that point again. Point: is that Xenos can be taken out with a sidearm, you try that move with a Bug and you're dead; why 20 Xenos = 1 Bug

LoL, yes. 15-20 Xenos needed to take down a single Bug and the Bug is dying due to the Xenos defensive system; not their offensive

Nope. J. Rico and crew would have pwned a Xenos swarm. 20 to 1 maths supports this

Nothing has been ignored

1) Because those sensors helped the CM? LOL!
2) Morita sniper, Morita and J. Rico > Smartguns
3) We know J. Rico can fight, show me a single scene of a CM going hand-to-hand. LOL!
4) LOL! Wrong. LOL! Morita IV can switch over to fire "gas propelled grenades", that's future speak for "RPG". Morita III has an under-slung "grenade launcher"
5) Because they were fighting Bugs and not humans

My "fact smash" crushed you, my follow-up scraped your remains off the street

Can't ever be mad when J. Rico is winning

Oh man can fact smash be a thing now?