DE Luke vs Yoda

Yeah... That's the point. You can't use the darkness to defeat the darkness but you can use the light.

Anyway, the canon audio drama makes it clear that Leia wasn't helping Luke in the duel while I've seen nothing to suggests he was. So yeah, until we see evidence to contrary, Luke bested Palpatine on his own in the saber duel.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
I told you before, Wookieepedia has footnotes, and I can't be bothered to look them up for you. You have no basis of denying Wookieepedia unless you can deny the footnotes it's based on.

There is a big difference between confident Jedi fully embrasing the lightside and a doubtful desperate Jedi broken by darkness. For the same reason in TFU game dark Marek is no threat for Palpatine, while lightside one gave hell of a fight.

Actually the Wookiepiedia is a source...its referenced by the official website last I checked

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Actually the Wookiepiedia is a source...its referenced by the official website last I checked

SWL
Point is that Sidious have limits too.

If and when the time comes that someone claims Sidious > Mortis Anchorites or some such, this might be relevant. Til then, it's a hell of a non sequitur and applies very much more to Vitiate. 👆

Not really. If anything, Vitiate is one of the characters who has no limits. He is only growing stronger, and the Wrarth's vision shows him consuming the galaxy.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not really. If anything, Vitiate is one of the characters who has no limits. He is only growing stronger, and the Wrarth's vision shows him consuming the galaxy.

Indeed? No limits? Remind me how and why he began the recent expansion on Yavin 4. 👆

To return back into his physical body to consume the galaxy.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
To return back into his physical body to consume the galaxy.

After an ignominious assbeating from the Hero of Tython demanded convalescence.

Because nothing says "no limits" like an ancient history of prepwork, eating other Sith Lords to beef up, and an epic beatdown on your home turf by a guy and his glorified Roomba.

Every character has limits, peaches. Vitiate's just more of the same. 👆

He did have limits, but not anymore. The entire plot of SoR is that a Yoda tier Force-wielder is not even remotely strong enough to defeat Vitiate.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He did have limits, but not anymore. The entire plot of SoR is that a Yoda tier Force-wielder is not even remotely strong enough to defeat Vitiate.

No shit?? The expansion ended with Vitiate nom-nomming the galaxyuniverse??

mmm

No lol, because he was only able to come back in his physical presence for like 5 seconds, but in that time he managed to somehow kill a large amount of Marr's forces.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No lol, because he was only able to come back in his physical presence for like 5 seconds, but in that time he managed to somehow kill a large amount of Marr's forces.

Congratulations, you've just discovered an elusive limit.

Im not classifying that as a limitation compared to mortals like Palpatine, who died by falling down a pit. 😂 Try harder, old man.

Vitiate died by hugging a lightsaber.

We aren't discussing weakened, pre-resurrection Vitiate though. If we were, I would agree he definitely has limits compared to other mortals.

@The_Tempest

Darth Sidious is much more likely to be hyped as an untouchable along with Luke Skywalker in comparison to any other character, I have noticed this trend since I have joined this form. Few have considered the possibility that these two have competition from ancient era and can be defeated.

As for Emperor Vitiate:

He performed badly against Hero of Tython because he was vulnerable after the disruption of his super-ritual. It really took a toll on him for a while and he still managed to put up a reasonable fight, even destroyed a portion of Dark Temple in an effort to kill the opponents.

Anyways, member DarthAnt66 is correct that Emperor Vitiate continues to grow in power seemingly endlessly in part due to his Force Drain related actions and also due to his condition. He is virtually unstoppable in power progression aspect and would eventually reach a point that he would consume the entire galaxy if his essence is not undone. Though how his essence will be undone remains to be seen.

So far, The Ones are the latest addition to no-limits-fallacy rule.

You here that old man? He even bolded my name but didn't bold yours! Take that.
EDIT: nvm he bolded yours too now. He bolded mine first though, proving my superiority.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Im not classifying that as a limitation compared to mortals like Palpatine, who died by falling down a pit. 😂 Try harder, old man.

By that you mean you're forced to disregard the actual definition of the word in order to facilitate your wank. Yes, we know.

The fact that you're bringing up Palpatine {whom I acknowledged twice in this very conversation as having limits} also reveals I've struck a nerve with you.

This is yet another example of why you should just stop posting and hire Skillz to take up your cause.