Understanding Darth Nihilus

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings, or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well."
―Darth Traya (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)

"As Nihilus greedy consumes entire planets life energies, the dark side macerates him even faster."
―Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide

"Amazingly dark and devastating powers are the purview of some of the greatest Sith Lords of the Knights of the Old Republic era. They devastate and consume entire worlds with a thought. [...] Average beings stand no chance of stopping these ultra-powerful monsters of the dark side."
―Power Beyond Belief: Using Ultra-Powerful Sith Lords in Saga Edition

"Darth Nihilus began his Jedi purge by obliterating the planet of Katarr, where a secret conclave of the most powerful Jedi were taking place."
―The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

"The last known Convocation occured on Katarr some 3,952 years before the Battle of Yavin. The assembled Jedi were slaughtered when the Sith Lord Darth Nihilus laid waist to the planet."
―The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

"And it devours him as he devours others—his mere presence kills all around him, slowly, feeding him. He is already dead, it is simply a question of how many he kills before he falls."
―Darth Traya (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)

"Then her lies will mean the planet's destruction, he will destroy all of Telos. He will turn it to fire again and crush the planet beneath him."
―Visas Marr (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)

"If there are no Jedi here, then my Lord cannot feed his hunger. He will destroy the planet, the station, he will cleanse it of life. Even if the people below are not Force Sensitive, the small amount he can feed on from the mass destruction of the station, and the life of the planet, will sustain him a while longer."
―Tobin (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords)

"Darth Nihilus is literally a destroyer of worlds, powered by an insatiable hunger that drives him to consume greater and greater populations. While one may reasonably expect someone fallen to the dark side to employ Force lightning against a foe, no one expects a fleet of starships commanded by Sith Lords consuming entire planets. Nor would Nihilus tolerate such a rival and competitor for his sustenance."
―Power Beyond Belief: Using Ultra-Powerful Sith Lords in Saga Edition

Continue to ponder.

Well, he was going to, which is the whole plot, but the Exile stops him beforehand.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He was not:

As for the ritual, inhabitants of Katarr heard his voice at the time of attack. Visas confirmed this.

He doesn't makes a voice while attacking individuals with Force Drain during combat situations or does he?

Anyway, in the attack on Katarr, as Neph noted, you can see individual mountains and shit with a great deal of clarity.

Well considering that it's obviously telepathic and not audible, we don't actually know.

I'll throw Nephthys a bone by pointing out that there is evidence that Nihilus was perplexed by the small amount of Force energy on Telos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpO__IJra4o

"Kreia has lied to you. There are no Jedi here. You have sensed it."

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your explanation is also an assumption.

It is still adequate to deny your theory that the only reason for why he couldn't drain Telos was that he was preparing.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Did you notice the planetary curvature? Obviously Nihilus's ship was at a distance that he could observe plantary curvatures.

Now see this:

You can see the curvature but not mountains and buildings. The planet is very big. This is why.

And Nihilus was this close to Telos IV. Recheck the image.

Hoho, but doesn't that kind of prove my point? If its very small, then Nihilus could be very close and still be able to see the curvature of the planet. Whether or not it's small though, if he's close enough to see buildings and individual mountains, thats pretty damn close. I can't see jack shit on that picture of earth, can you? His ship would have to be much closer than that satellite to be capable of doing that.

Btw, satellites are still hundreds of miles from earth. I think the minimum distance is 200 miles. And no, Nihilus' ship was much much farther away. Your picture is just shit and you don't understand perspective.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Show me evidence of Nihilus draining on planetary scale with a word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHSstYl9Yfs

"When my Lord spoke, every living thing on Katarr died."

You're welcome. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well, he was going to, which is the whole plot, but the Exile stops him beforehand.

When the Strike Team boarded Ravager, they had to fight through its defenses to reach Nihilus. Again, Nihilus had ample time.

All I am getting are excuses and assumptions. If Nihilus could destroy a planet with a mere thought, he had ample time to do so during the battle of Telos IV. He didn't.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Again, Strike Team had boarded a space station orbiting the planet earlier. Nihilus had ample time.

When the Strike Team boarded Ravager, they had to fight through its defenses to reach Nihilus. Again, Nihilus had ample time.

All I am getting are excuses and assumptions. If Nihilus could destroy a planet with a mere thought, he had ample time to do so during the battle of Telos IV. He didn't.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Again, Strike Team had boarded a space station orbiting the planet earlier. Nihilus had ample time.

When the Strike Team boarded Ravager, they had to fight through its defenses to reach Nihilus. Again, Nihilus had ample time.

All I am getting are excuses and assumptions. If Nihilus could destroy a planet with a mere thought, he had ample time to do so during the battle of Telos IV. He didn't.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey sure man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHSstYl9Yfs

"When my Lord spoke, every living thing on Katarr died."

You're welcome. 👆

"My people never saw his face when he struck—but they heard his voice. When my lord spoke, every living thing on Katarr died."

As I pointed out earlier, a voice accompanied the attack or represented it. This sounds ritualistic.

The whole reason Nihilus went there and wanted to drain Telos was because he thought Jedi were there. Obviously he'd pause in doing so when he senses there are no Jedi there. Thats why he didn't drain the planet until the Exile barged into his bridge.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Prove all of these statements that Nihilus had "ample time".

Battle of Telos IV was not a short event. Ravager was located or positioned very close to the planet itself. The Strike Team first boarded a space station orbiting the planet to secure it from Sith forces and then proceeded to board Ravager to assassinate Nihilus. During these developments, Nihilus had ample time to attack Telos IV.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here:

"My people never saw his face when he struck—but they heard his voice. When my lord spoke, every living thing on Katarr died."

As I pointed out earlier, a voice accompanied the attack or represented it. This sounds ritualistic.

"Oh, because there was a voice, it was probably a ritual."

Where is the correlation? Why does voice = ritual?

You don't see how nonsensical you're being? You are disputing that Nihilus killed Katarr by speaking via bringing up that a voice accompanied it. Well I guess it would have to, wouldn't it? Seeing as he killed it by speaking. 😐

Your argument is utter nonsense.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You cannot read?

Battle of Telos IV was not a short event. Ravager was located or positioned very close to the planet itself. The Strike Team first boarded a space station orbiting the planet to secure it from Sith forces and then proceeded to board Ravager. During these developments, Nihilus had ample time to attack Telos IV.

How do you know?

You can't even prove that Nihilus was in range to do so. 🙂

YouTube video

Just for reference since Legends picture is shit, we can see plainly how close the Ravager was to the planet here. Anyone see any mountains?

Also Legend, Nihilus' voice has been noted in sources as possessing the ability to harm or kill. No ritual required. So it being tied to his technique is plausible and doesn't indicate a ritual at all.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The whole reason Nihilus went there and wanted to drain Telos was because he thought Jedi were there. Obviously he'd pause in doing so when he senses there are no Jedi there. Thats why he didn't drain the planet until the Exile barged into his bridge.

Now, obviously, Nihilus learned that he had been misled. But, he still decided to attack the planet because of hunger factor. He was not willing to leave without feeding.

However, the attack did not happened during the entire course of the battle. This is why the question remains that how much time is needed for him to commence an attack of such a scale. Problem is that nobody knows and this is an unexplored aspect.

Thank you, my son.

The ship clearly isn't as close as it was to Katarr.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Legend, Nihilus' voice has been noted in sources as possessing the ability to harm or kill. No ritual required. So it being tied to his technique is plausible and doesn't indicate a ritual at all.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thank you, my son.

The ship clearly isn't as close as it was to Katarr.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
For preparation?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Or you mistakenly assume that Katarr and Telos IV are of the same size.

The cities that can be seen from the ship aren't any smaller than they'd be on Telos. You can see the larger buildings distinctly.

Not so for Telos.