Yeah, during the Thor/Hulk fight, Thor needed to use both his arms to block/restrain one of Hulk's (allowing Hulk to cheap shot him with his free hand), so Hulk is definitely above Thor in terms of brute strength.
I'd put Clark first, then, based on consistent showings, Kurse then Hulk and then Thor.
To be fair, he initially blocked it with one arm, then he added the second, so there wasn't much of a strength difference between them. Also, Hulk was rampaging before that so he probably amped himself a bit before the Thor fight.
Theoretically Hulk could become stronger than anyone on the list given enough time, but I don't see that happening in practice.
Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how you're viewing this.Hulk> Superman> Kurse> Thor
By the way, Hulk was man handling Thor and like Banner said, Hulk is always angry so his rampage before facing Thor is irrelevant.
Hulk has zero feats to suggest he is stronger then Superman.
Quit being stupid
Thing is, I believe Superman's strength was greatly enhanced by his speed and flight. When you look at his greatest strength feats, it was either aided by flight (gravity beam feat) or by speed (punching and charging at the kryptonians). Now if we were to remove his speed and flight then I believe Kurse and Hulk are actually pretty close to him in strength.
As for Kurse and Hulk, many people put Kurse above Hulk due to his impressive showing against Thor. But he didn't beat Thor due to an overwhelming strength advantage but due to a combination of skill, strength and most of all durability. That said, I believe Hulk and Kurse are close to each other in strength. Might even give the strength advantage to Hulk.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thing is, I believe Superman's strength was greatly enhanced by his speed and flight. When you look at his greatest strength feats, it was either aided by flight (gravity beam feat) or by speed (punching and charging at the kryptonians). Now if we were to remove his speed and flight then I believe Kurse and Hulk are actually pretty close to him in strength.As for Kurse and Hulk, many people put Kurse above Hulk due to his impressive showing against Thor. But he didn't beat Thor due to an overwhelming strength advantage but due to a combination of skill, strength and most of all durability. That said, I believe Hulk and Kurse are close to each other in strength. Might even give the strength advantage to Hulk.
Kurse beat hulk by straight up gangsta strength.
He flat put pounded him into submission.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Kurse beat hulk by straight up gangsta strength.He flat put pounded him into submission.
Kurse never fought Hulk. If what you meant was Thor, then Kurse beat Thor because he was fast and skilled enough to swat Mjolnir away and then was durable enough to tank Thor's best shots without even flinching... which then allowed him to swing away at Thor.
If Hulk had been allowed to pound away at Thor like Kurse did then I don't see why he couldn't beat up Thor the same way, probably would have beat him up faster. The reason why Hulk couldn't do it wasn't because he wasn't as strong as Kurse but because
a. He wasn't fast or skilled enough to avoid Mjolnir
b. He wasn't durable enough to completely tank Thor's hits like Kurse was doing (a cross punch from Thor sent Hulk turning 360)
c. And he wasn't fast enough to land all of his hits like Kurse did
Originally posted by carver9
It depends on how you're viewing this.Hulk> Superman> Kurse> Thor
By the way, Hulk was man handling Thor and like Banner said, Hulk is always angry so his rampage before facing Thor is irrelevant.
Lol, here we go. Do explain how Hulk's feats are better than overpowering a skyscraper-crushin gravity beam while depowered, and overpowering the singularity. Or how Kurse didn't outperform Hulk when he fought Thor.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thing is, I believe Superman's strength was greatly enhanced by his speed and flight. When you look at his greatest strength feats, it was either aided by flight (gravity beam feat) or by speed (punching and charging at the kryptonians). Now if we were to remove his speed and flight then I believe Kurse and Hulk are actually pretty close to him in strength.As for Kurse and Hulk, many people put Kurse above Hulk due to his impressive showing against Thor. But he didn't beat Thor due to an overwhelming strength advantage but due to a combination of skill, strength and most of all durability. That said, I believe Hulk and Kurse are close to each other in strength. Might even give the strength advantage to Hulk.
Kryptonian flight is pretty much = Kryptonian strength. Remember when Zod and Superman charged each other? Superman was flying while Zod was running, and still Zod managed to overpower Superman in that clash. Also, you forgot the Black hole feat which shits on anything Hulk has ever done.
Kurse definitely performed better against Thor than Hulk did. That nigga just swatted Mjolnir away while Hulk was sent flying when he tried to catch it.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Kryptonian flight is pretty much = Kryptonian strength. Remember when Zod and Superman charged each other? Superman was flying while Zod was running, and still Zod managed to overpower Superman in that clash. Also, you forgot the Black hole feat which shits on anything Hulk has ever done.Kurse definitely performed better against Thor than Hulk did. That nigga just swatted Mjolnir away while Hulk was sent flying when he tried to catch it.
Flight and speed gives added momentum though, plus we're not sure exactly how their physics work in relation to flying. Flying away from the blackhole pull is a crappy example of strength considering that Lois Lane was still falling and wasn't being pulled. So if a blackhole isn't strong enough to pull in a 130 pound or so woman then it's not really a great feat for Superman's strength.
I'm not saying Kurse didn't perform better than Hulk against Thor, what I'm saying is that he performed better against Thor not due to strength alone but a combination of other aspects like speed and durability. Swatting away Mjolnir wasn't a sign of strength but rather of reaction speed.
Originally posted by FrothByteI'm not saying Kurse didn't perform better than Hulk against Thor, what I'm saying is that he performed better against Thor not due to strength alone but a combination of other aspects like speed and durability. Swatting away Mjolnir wasn't a sign of strength but rather of reaction speed.
He can react fast as he wants, but without the strength/durability it would have been meaningless. Cap could probably swat Mjolnir aside, but it would break his hand. Even without any speed advantage whatsoever, Kurse would have beat Thor down all the same.
Originally posted by KingD19
He can react fast as he wants, but without the strength/durability it would have been meaningless. Cap could probably swat Mjolnir aside, but it would break his hand. Even without any speed advantage whatsoever, Kurse would have beat Thor down all the same.
You misunderstand. I'm not saying you don't need superstrength. What I'm trying to say is that Kurse did not swat mjolnir away because he had so much more strength than Hulk. Hulk had just as much strength if not more so to swat mjolnir aside. What he was lacking was reaction speed.
Hulk's punches hurt Thor just as much if not moreso than Kurse's punches. The difference is that Hulk could only land 1 punch whereas Kurse landed multiple.