KMC: Choose ONE Power

Originally posted by StyleTime
Indeed. I wish the same could be said for the dialogue.

I am sorry my "body swap" post wasn't that in depth, but I wanted to respond before I left tonight. I will probably be wasted so I won't be back until later tomorrow. This thread jumps 90 pages at a time, so I wanted to put something out there for Dark Saint before too much time passes.

He may still be in the fight if he finishes the blood drain before I can affect his mind, but I think I can safely manage a body swap.

Has anyone figured out how to deal with the speed blitz from Celehyuga? I've got something planned for myself, but I wonder what everyone else's strategy is?

Let em tag me

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Let em tag me

Dark, how are you opening spots as far off as the sun? I thought there was a range to his abilities.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Tag, your it!

Show the next panel were I eviscerate him

Originally posted by Digi
Dark, how are you opening spots as far off as the sun? I thought there was a range to his abilities.

Apparently spot has no limits to where he can teleport to or from.

I'm still in space safe from everything. The only person that can attack me is Dark. I'm still bombarding earth from space. Taking out all of the main cities. I'm also shielded by my boy time and I have my own personal shields as well while I attack Earth. My goal is to lay ruins to everything, as much as I can. I have a life time to do this without any intervention while Dark is taking it to others on the planet. I'm not worried about Sin. Her powers are mainly defensive with minimum offensive capabilites.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Apparently spot has no limits to where he can teleport to or from.

How is that something that can be proven? I've won a tourney with Spot on my team...I know his feats. I never even considered something like that because there aren't scans (that I'm aware of) that support it.

Originally posted by Digi
How is that something that can be proven? I've won a tourney with Spot on my team...I know his feats. I never even considered something like that because there aren't scans (that I'm aware of) that support it.

1) Delph can't get technopathy feats across the board, he only gets the feats from one character.

2) Spot is limited to earth.

If spot is limited to Earth, he dies.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm still in space safe from everything. The only person that can attack me is Dark. I'm still bombarding earth from space. Taking out all of the main cities. I'm also shielded by my boy time and I have my own personal shields as well while I attack Earth. My goal is to lay ruins to everything, as much as I can. I have a life time to do this without any intervention while Dark is taking it to others on the planet. I'm not worried about Sin. Her powers are mainly defensive with minimum offensive capabilites.

The first storm u created i flew a plane right into it. As the plane exploded i gained increased durability, ability to breathe at those wind speeds, immunity to lightning and flight. Im omw to your location now

B-Dub already clarified that, kris.

We aren't specific characters, we're us with the power we chose and can glean feats from all of the characters in fiction with that power which are under the low herald cap (as points of reference).

I made a strategic choice. Versatile applications and battlefield leverage over brute force.

As for DS with Spot/Dark Dimension Portals, his range isn't the only issue. His portals don't have gravimetric or innertial effect, they're essentially just doorways. Any momentum exerted by an object passing through those portals would have to be their own. He's not Blink, for example. There's a lot of logistical issues he has with parts of his plan. It's pretty sharp in theory though. Reminds me of an old plan that King Kandy and I believe ID and Akuki had in one of my tournaments back in the days where they used Spot's portals to drop large rocks and stone debris through and had a magic sword that increased the mass of the objects it struck and they created a makeshift mass driver/rail gun to drop ELE asteroids on their opponents (boulders going at C). That was a plan that always impressed me. That and I believe ID/Kandy's Cogliostro Deception.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
B-Dub already clarified that, kris.

We aren't specific characters, we're us with the power we chose and can glean feats from all of the characters in fiction with that power which are under the low herald cap (as points of reference).

When you consider in say the Absolution comics Sin can literally develop any beneficial ability by exposing herself to minor stuff. It'd take her like 15 minutes to develop immunity to any kind of injury, etc.

DS' dimension-teleportation essentially gets no limit to his teleportation.

Any Telepath can then interact with both technology and human minds and control them freely.

In some fictional universe this or that happened, ergo my character can do it.

The low hearld limit means literally nothing when you can draw on feats from ALL OF FICTION.

I don't have a problem with Delph trying for more than Jeffries's technopathic and engineering feats. But the reason he's able to go for it (his intellect instead of Jeffries) is the same thing holding him back. He still has to actually figure things out for himself, and a LOT of technopathic feats from comics would require knowledge, materials, or physics that don't exist irl. He can scour the Earth's databases all he wants, but plans for herald-busting devices won't be in them, and it's doubtful that the knowledge that could lead to such devices will be there either.

On power usage, if it's a logical extension of Jeffries's powers, but a feat of someone else's....ok, maybe, depending on the feat. But again, there are going to be limits.

Especially in the timeframes that we're looking at, I'm comfortable thinking that Delph could create or control nearly any type of weapon that currently exists on Earth. The specs for them will be in some database. And I'm ok with small applications beyond Jeffries's feats, because if he gets Jeffries's skill with his powers but is trying to replicate another's feat, it will require practice. Beyond that, though, I'm very skeptical.

No, actually, because B-Dub also clarified that we're not novices with our abilities. We're adept, just don't have the equivalent in experience as our fictional counterparts. For example, you'd be a powerful telepath, but you wouldn't actually be Charles Xavier.

I simply pulled a great card that not only is versatile but shortens my learning curve due to my passive innates.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Indeed. I wish the same could be said for the dialogue.

I am sorry my "body swap" post wasn't that in depth, but I wanted to respond before I left tonight. I will probably be wasted so I won't be back until later tomorrow. This thread jumps 90 pages at a time, so I wanted to put something out there for Dark Saint before too much time passes.

He may still be in the fight if he finishes the blood drain before I can affect his mind, but I think I can safely manage a body swap.

Has anyone figured out how to deal with the speed blitz from Celehyuga? I've got something planned for myself, but I wonder what everyone else's strategy is?

Can you do a body swap whilst being stalemated?

Remember, the bell goes, you're locked in battle with Golgo - who you didn't know about - and I slip away. You don't know what I'm going to do, and I was only in this dimension for the time it takes to slip from here to SpotWorld.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's reactive. I know you're plan is to teleport me to space. That's a danger. I can't survive there indefinitely. I develop counter measures. If i step off a skyscraper. I develop flight. Hax i know but that's his ability. Who's to say i won't negate your teleportation attempt. Its not like you'd overpower me. Everything u throw your precious sunbursts, your trips to the bottom of the ocean, you bfr to space will make me more powerful. His adaptations have lasting effects.

Not to mention, in the space scan I showed, he doesn't get flight - he kicks off from that rock.

I'm NEVER throwing sunbursts, or trips to the bottom of the ocean. Just trips to space, nothing more. Your power comes up on the scanner - evolution. I'd be a fool to throw things at you.

Originally posted by Digi
Dark, how are you opening spots as far off as the sun? I thought there was a range to his abilities.

'Even more astonishing, I can step into the spot, and emerge instantaneously from ANY OTHER, NO MATTER HOW FAR AWAY it is located'.

Using Cloak as an analogue, Cloak could teleport from places as far as the N-Zone to NYC through the Darkforce Dimension.

I mean, if needs be, as I have 'teleportation' abilities, all can be allowed to me. But I'm not going to use that, except as a last resort.

Including Gateway's. Who has transported people across realities.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm still in space safe from everything. The only person that can attack me is Dark. I'm still bombarding earth from space. Taking out all of the main cities. I'm also shielded by my boy time and I have my own personal shields as well while I attack Earth. My goal is to lay ruins to everything, as much as I can. I have a life time to do this without any intervention while Dark is taking it to others on the planet. I'm not worried about Sin. Her powers are mainly defensive with minimum offensive capabilites.

Originally posted by carver9
If spot is limited to Earth, he dies.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
As for DS with Spot/Dark Dimension Portals, his range isn't the only issue. His portals don't have gravimetric or innertial effect, they're essentially just doorways. Any momentum exerted by an object passing through those portals would have to be their own. He's not Blink, for example.

The Sun's core is at a pressure of 250 billion atmospheres. Earth, 1 atmosphere.

Get a tube of toothpaste, unopened, and squeeze it as hard as you can. Now put a hole in it. Guess what, the toothpaste gets squeezed out that hole. Things will always flow from high to low pressure.

Cloak has shown limits with his power, in that he can't move a massive mass of people without fainting (he REALLY strained with all those heroes in the vinal battle of Civil War). Spot has NEVER shown that limitation, but I am adding it anyway. Hence my link, which uses a mere 1m cubed volume of sun core material.

Sunbuster

The sun also has an extreme gravitation field. If you want to open a spot and let a solar flare shoot through the portal, fine. You're not, however, going to displace a portion of the sun with a one meter door.

I'll have to do a write-up detailing how I murder you all. None of this team-up shit either, there can be only one!

@Dark...

First panel, Storm IS in space. The clouds you see is in the next panels are created by her. She has created things in space with her powers before, including lightning but as shown, she is in space and can create an atmosphere as well. I will be ok. If she had any problems breathing in space, it would've been shown then.

http://imageshack.com/i/a2xxm34pyratep14rl7j

Have more scans on the way with another post as well on my actions.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
The sun also has an extreme gravitation field. If you want to open a spot and let a solar flare shoot through the portal, fine. You're not, however, going to displace a portion of the sun with a one meter door.

So you're saying, the Sun will hold its integrity?? Proof? And no, I'm not asking for maths or scans or anything like that - its so damn specific (what would happen if I opened a portal bridge between etc etc) that you wouldn't find it. I'm just asking for a real life analogue. So my way of thinking about it, is a toothpaste tube (lol). I provide a pressure release outlet (at the core, to our world, in your tummy or something, whatever, early on in the game before Digi has turned into Mega City One and is walking about) and you're saying NOTHING would harm our world? The sheer heat alone would destroy our atmosphere plus the radiation, but you're saying the gravitational field (which is, of course, what I was taking into account - something is creating that pressure, natch) would keep all that material with the sun?

I doubt it very highly.

Originally posted by carver9
@Dark...

First panel, Storm IS in space. The clouds you see is in the next panels are created by her. She has created things in space with her powers before, including lightning but as shown, she is in space and can create an atmosphere as well. I will be ok. If she had any problems breathing in space, it would've been shown then.

http://imageshack.com/i/a2xxm34pyratep14rl7j

Have more scans on the way with another post as well on my actions.

IOW, Storm is flying as high as this jet. So ~37,000 feet:
http://nicmosis.as.arizona.edu:8000/ECLIPSE_WEB/TSE2015/400P_COMPOSITE_FOR_PF_50.jpg

And this:

http://www.colourbox.com/preview/4632698-645723-a-picture-taken-through-an-airplane-window-over-the-wing-and-over-the-clouds-looking-down-on-to-earth.jpg

Jeez. She's above cloud cover, that's all. Don't make it more than it is. At 37,000 feet, you can see the curve of the Earth. On a cloudless evening, you'll be ablet see stars - I can see stars from the bloody ground.

Even if, EVEN IF, she is in space (she isn't), you have weather control - how does that give you a superhuman durability to space, and the ability to function without oxygen??? You have ONE power, you're not a character. Jesus wept.

I'll take Damien Hellstorm if Shade is restricted, if Damien is also restricted then I will take John Constantine's power of Prep.