Current DC cosmology, what is it? Omniverse or Multiverse?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Dc is an Omniverse of it's own, it's neither a Part of Marvel nor our own Universe, as it is only fictionai iow, not real, that's why an oxymoronic thing like multiple Omniverses in multiple companies can exists. You could also call it a Metaverse.

There is an infinite number of Universes in a Multiverse and hence in the Omni- or Metaverse itself. DCnU is I guess an Multiverse of it's own, the PC verse and the Pre DcnU verse too, I hope Darkseid is still above all this and this rectonn is like a thing for his Avatars and the real is still just one being, a Metaversal concept of Evil.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what convergence does to DC's cosmology. right now everythings up for speculation, everyones got their own theory, i believe in multiple multiverses, galan believes in hypertime, leon believes in....something, i dont know, you and operator believe in an omniverse and golgos in the same department as leon.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
You're speaking in riddles 😕
That map isnt by the company, its by grant morrison, and he created that map so other writers can use it as a guide, yet its funny how none of the writers used that map and how Didio, a monthor 2 later, came out with the synopsis of convergence with a cosmology completely mocking that map.

But then there was an explanation, that map was from multiversity, every multiversity issue that has come out so far, has been stories about the pre-flashpoint multiverses, considering how the final poster of convergence depicted the cartoon universe as one of the universe captured by braniac, and that same cartoon universe was one of the universe on the map, its safe to say that map is the map of the pre-flashpoint multiverse.

😂

not trying to be all enigmatic. i just think it's silly trying to choose between choices that can both be proven to be accurate. clearly there is a mess, despite the clean up efforts. where does the injustice universe fit in? the fight for the multiverse multiverse? there are obviously multiple multiverses making up dc currently. but how they work and fit in relation to each other is anyone's guess. i do think you're understating the purpose of that map however. dc already has it up on their official website as THE map of THE multiverse--as it is now conceived, in the new dc. on it is listed EARTH-0 and the official description has earth-0's first appearance being nu justice league #1. it would seem they intend it to stand as the map of the dcnu....

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
I guess we'll have to wait and see what convergence does to DC's cosmology. right now everythings up for speculation, everyones got their own theory, i believe in multiple multiverses, galan believes in hypertime, leon believes in....something, i dont know, you and operator believe in an omniverse and golgos in the same department as leon.

ha! no one's called me leon for a long while....

summing up my beliefs is hard, only because, as i said, there are different right answers to the question. there is certainly, by evidence, more than one multiverse. but how do they relate? impossible to say imo. when hypertime existed it made things much easier and the relationship was easy to understand. now? not so much. i FAVOR a hypertime explanation, but it is not one supported by dc--especially as it currently stands. my hope is that convergence will sort out the catastrophe that is dc's cosmology.

Shut up, leon. 👆

nutkick

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Then again the map contradicts most of DC's inconsistent and damaged cosmology; so i wouldnt be surprised with what you said, then again hypertime could easily fix everything, like how galan gave examples.

Originally posted by leonidas
ha! no one's called me leon for a long while....

summing up my beliefs is hard, only because, as i said, there are different right answers to the question. there is certainly, by evidence, more than one multiverse. but how do they relate? impossible to say imo. when hypertime existed it made things much easier and the relationship was easy to understand. now? not so much. i FAVOR a hypertime explanation, but it is not one supported by dc--especially as it currently stands. my hope is that convergence will sort out the catastrophe that is dc's cosmology.

I prefer Leon, it sounds cool; that is if you dont mind me calling you that 😮

Anyway about DC, its cosmology is a mess, but i want to know your views, how does the map fit with convergence and the new 52's current line-up of terms?

Originally posted by Galan007
Shut up, leon. 👆

One more thing galan, whats the stance on mageddon?

Originally posted by CatL18
Which is higher, Hypertime or Monitor Sphere?

Monitor sphere is essentially its own realm, hypertime is DC's quantum mechanics. So hypertime is bigger, logically that is.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/16202437/

I think he/she noticed our reaction to that thread, i gotta say though i commend him for putting time into that thread.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
One more thing galan, whats the stance on mageddon?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
http://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/16202437/

I think he/she noticed our reaction to that thread, i gotta say though i commend him for putting time into that thread.

I couple of the folks at killermovies have noticed this thread, and they're curious as to how i havnt given them credit for the scans, a lot of which i got from their forum; they then go onto boast about their superiority as the most reliable forum. First of i want to say that i acknowledged that i got scans from their forum, and i respect them for not blowing this out of portion and i thank them for that, second of all, their superiority complex hasnt helped their reputation at all, especially with their marvel bias conquering their forum.

And last of all, i did the internet a favor by atleast compiling DC's cosmology, cosmic hierarchy and DC's top feats, something no other forum on the internet has done, while killermovies already has 4 marvel hierarchy/cosmology threads, they dont even have ONE for DC. Spacebattles is the first to possess an extensive insight on DC's full cosmic hierarchy, the very first and the most detailed, i believe that made a crack on KMC's ego, and while i thank them for their scans, truth be told, if even one of them intended on making a DC cosmic thread, they could have easily pulled it off, by easily assimilating all their images, which they didnt.

This is not a hate speech, this is a painful truth, stemmed from an indivduals passion not being given credit, especially for trying.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Monitor sphere is essentially its own realm, hypertime is DC's quantum mechanics. So hypertime is bigger, logically that is.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
One more thing galan, whats the stance on mageddon?

I think its an antiquated technology and the government should stop propping it up with useless subsidies 👆.

Originally posted by Galan007

😂

we have a superiority complex? 😕

not sure who has been going around boasting, but i for one find the whole comparing of forums thing pretty hilarious tbh. i've never posted on other forums not because i have any sense that this is a 'superior' forum. rather, because i'm too damn lazy. besides that, the forum IS open, so, if someone likes it, they should, you know, maybe join in? shrug we don't bite. well maybe titan does, but whatever. i've never understood the animosity i see sometimes when people talk about other forums...

back on topic--leon is fine, leo is just the norm. 🙂

as for my views--i've intentionally stayed out of it, but give me a couple days (leaving for indiana tomorrow morning) and i'll try and give you something closer to what you're looking for if i can get my stuff together. you've already got some good stuff, not sure what i'll add, but i'll see what i can do.

I have a question to debater of this thread.
Is Monitor Sphere of New52 same as Pre-Flashpoint Monitor Sphere?
The Monitor was send to creation by Overvoid when The Story of Superman was born for the first time.And Nix Uotan in Multiversity is same person as him in Final Crisis. So Theoritically, They and Sphere of Monitor have been there from Pre-Crisis multiverse to DCnU.
But, Pre-Crisis multiverse, pre-Flashpoint multiverse,DCnU multiverse, They are different multiverse. What does it mean?
Is it because of that Monitor Sphere dwarf them all? or Does it mean that Each Multiverse has Monitor Sphere(and Source Wall),and Monitors move between them?

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?

I heard the mageddon is a new god tech, a universal threat, is that true?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think its an antiquated technology and the government should stop propping it up with useless subsidies 👆.

I barely know a thing about the mageddon

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

we have a superiority complex? 😕

not sure who has been going around boasting, but i for one find the whole comparing of forums thing pretty hilarious tbh. i've never posted on other forums not because i have any sense that this is a 'superior' forum. rather, because i'm too damn lazy. besides that, the forum IS open, so, if someone likes it, they should, you know, maybe join in? shrug we don't bite. well maybe titan does, but whatever. i've never understood the animosity i see sometimes when people talk about other forums...

back on topic--leon is fine, leo is just the norm. 🙂

as for my views--i've intentionally stayed out of it, but give me a couple days (leaving for indiana tomorrow morning) and i'll try and give you something closer to what you're looking for if i can get my stuff together. you've already got some good stuff, not sure what i'll add, but i'll see what i can do.

Enjoy your stay in Indiana.

Leon reminds me of leon from resident evil, it sounds cool, 😎

I remember how intimidated i was about joining killermovies at first, mainly cause most, if not all, comic knowledge came from here, i felt like a 3rd grader trying to hang out with college jocks, so i spent some time trying to up my comic knowledge, and somehow i made a good impression by adding to the rune lord respect thread.

Most forum members are intimidated or too nervous to join here, so they merely stalk the forums and take what they can and flee to other forums. Im with every forum on the internet, save for the OBD and the lounge. So im speaking for those forum members. But i got to say, KMC is by far the most friendliest forum ive been to, and also i stood corrected, its the library haven for comics.

Originally posted by CatL18
I have a question to debater of this thread.
Is Monitor Sphere of New52 same as Pre-Flashpoint Monitor Sphere?
The Monitor was send to creation by Overvoid when The Story of Superman was born for the first time.And Nix Uotan in Multiversity is same person as him in Final Crisis. So Theoritically, They and Sphere of Monitor have been there from Pre-Crisis multiverse to DCnU.
But, Pre-Crisis multiverse, pre-Flashpoint multiverse,DCnU multiverse, They are different multiverse. What does it mean?
Is it because of that Monitor Sphere dwarf them all? or Does it mean that Each Multiverse has Monitor Sphere(and Source Wall),and Monitors move between them?

The only time we've seen the monitor sphere or even a monitor/s, in the new 52, is in multiversity. According to the map the monitor sphere dwarfs everything, but theoretically hyperitme/ DC's quantum mechanics, extends across everything, we know from convergence that the pre-flashpoint realities exist outside time and space, its why braniac wants to get to vanishing point; so theoretically hypertime, and the overall cosmos should dwarf the monitor sphere, but again its all hypothesis.