Interesting Presidential Trip

Started by Robtard8 pages

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Im glad you are a believer or know what it takes.

However that's not the only thing.

One doesn't need to be one to know.

Such as?

Let's be clear that Obama is only saying he's a Christian because he has to.

There's nothing, however, Christlike about killing thousands of innocent people, being a warmongerer, and being a liar.

Obama is clearly an immoral, warmongering, liar.

It doesn't matter if he calls himself a Christian. It says in the New Testament that not everyone who says "lord! lord!" will get into heaven. Meaning, you can say you're a Christian but if you don't act or think like a Christian, you're not a Christian. Really, the only thing required to be a Christian (other than obvious rites) are trying to be like Christ. Genuinely trying to be.

Here's the deal: I would respect Obama quite a bit more if he'd stop lying so much, stop pandering, and just be honest.

Just to make it clear, I never agreed or disagreed with TI's assessment.

The only way to really know the truth, is to force (ie. by torture) Obama to say his religious affiliation.

That would prove nothing, if you torture someone enough, they'll "admit" to whatever you want them to

Originally posted by Robtard
That would prove nothing, if you torture someone enough, they'll "admit" to whatever you want them to

Yeah you have to be careful not to be extreme.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's be clear that Obama is only saying he's a Christian because he has to.

There's nothing, however, Christlike about killing thousands of innocent people, being a warmongerer, and being a liar.

Obama is clearly an immoral, warmongering, liar.

It doesn't matter if he calls himself a Christian. It says in the New Testament that not everyone who says "lord! lord!" will get into heaven. Meaning, you can say you're a Christian but if you don't act or think like a Christian, you're not a Christian. Really, the only thing required to be a Christian (other than obvious rites) are trying to be like Christ. Genuinely trying to be.

Here's the deal: I would respect Obama quite a bit more if he'd stop lying so much, stop pandering, and just be honest.

Oh my god, if you think Obama is warmongering, what do you think of Bush ?haermm

How's he immoral? hmm

Oh wait, we flew planes into Kabul and started shit.

How quick people forget 9/11.

Unheard of!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's be clear that Obama is only saying he's a Christian because he has to.

There's nothing, however, Christlike about killing thousands of innocent people, being a warmongerer, and being a liar.

Obama is clearly an immoral, warmongering, liar.

It doesn't matter if he calls himself a Christian. It says in the New Testament that not everyone who says "lord! lord!" will get into heaven. Meaning, you can say you're a Christian but if you don't act or think like a Christian, you're not a Christian. Really, the only thing required to be a Christian (other than obvious rites) are trying to be like Christ. Genuinely trying to be.

Here's the deal: I would respect Obama quite a bit more if he'd stop lying so much, stop pandering, and just be honest.

If you're going to revoke someone's Christianity due to unchristian acts committed, then you've just revoked 99.99999999% of Christians

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Oh wait, we flew planes into Kabul and started shit.

How quick people forget 9/11.

Unheard of!

Neither Afghanistan nor Iraq attacked the US on September 11th 2001, but that didn't stop the US from going in and starting shit

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Oh wait, we flew planes into Kabul and started shit.

How quick people forget 9/11.

Unheard of!


He then sent more troops to Iraq.
Didn't finish the war in Afghanistan.

It wasn't until Obama took seat that Bin Laden was finished off for good.

Wait SH was moral by killing 500-600 thousand of his own people?

Obama killed an old man in retirement. Has it solved anything?

It gave me the warm fuzzies.

SH is a different story.
Bush (the US, in general) hated that person for some reason.

Yes, he was a tyrannical loonie. But so was Fidel Castro.
The point is, he kept the country in check.
The Iraqis are too disorganized and chaotic and lacked the proper education to rule over the country in a democratic way, just like other oppressed people from other countries like Cuba, African states and N. Korea.

He had to control the country with an iron fist.
When he got executed, look at how Iraq plunged into a hellhole.

Iraq invasion was a futile attempt of the US to take control of Iraqi resources.
The plan backfired, and now we have a deranged man who built a criminal empire with an ideology that won't simply fade away in due time.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Wait SH was moral by killing 500-600 thousand of his own people?

Obama killed an old man in retirement. Has it solved anything?

Obama accomplished what Bush couldn't when he ordered the death of Osama. That must have stung Georgie.

What did killing Osama accomplish?

So you'd rather have him alive?

Originally posted by Robtard
So you'd rather have him alive?

Considering Obama has now said and taken the stance that "The Taliban is not a terrorist organization, even though they conduct acts of terorism." Maybe Obama is growing soft. What kind of an idiot says such a stupid thing..

Originally posted by Robtard
If you're going to revoke someone's Christianity due to unchristian acts committed, then you've just revoked 99.99999999% of Christians

Closer to 65%, really.

Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
Oh my god, if you think Obama is warmongering, what do you think of Bush ?haermm

The same but somewhere between 2-3x worse. In Obama's defense (this was, originally, a point Robtard made to me), Obama was/is just fighting the wars that Bush started.

You haven't seen some my my anti-Bush rants in the GDF. You should definitely post here, more often, because your posts are definitely welcome/on point.

Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
How's he immoral? hmm

He's a politician that seems to be lying even worse than normal for a president. Considering the hope that he brought the voters and the world (and then he ended up being "more of Bush"😉, that's pretty dang immoral.

Again, this is shit I have bitched about in the GDF quite a bit. Check this out to see where I'm coming from:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

For me, some of the biggest promises (ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, closing Gitmo, ending the spying on the American people, a true universal healthcare system, energy independence, etc.) he broke. But his State of the Union seems to be scratching some itches. If Obama delivers on some of my bigger issues, I won't be so critical of his 2 terms.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Considering Obama has now said and taken the stance that "The Taliban is not a terrorist organization, even though they conduct acts of terorism." Maybe Obama is growing soft. What kind of an idiot says such a stupid thing..
So you'd rather have Osama alive?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Closer to 65%, really.

99.9999999% was not negotiable and you really can't believe that 35% of Christians don't ever lie, like never ever. This is also just one of many "not like Christ" acts to choose from.