Ghostbusters (2016)

Originally posted by Surtur
How is that the case since he mentioned the GA score, which is what I also feel is more important.

I'm just saying the more people who rate something the more you get a sense of the overall feeling. Taking the average score from 200 ratings is fine, but if you have a wildly different score from nearly 80,000 ratings...I think the people have spoken.

If you take the scoring of fans literally, then IMDB has The Shawshank Redemption as the Greatest Movie Of All Time (I'm a fan of the film, but it's nowhere near that level.) Players get voted into AllStar games and have that on their resumes due to fans stuffing ballots.

Fans are fans, not detached observers like critics are supposed to be. Their opinion is often not an informed one, too based on emotion.

Besides , polling of audience reaction of the reboot gives them movie an B+ rating so far, which is good. I was at the theatre for this last night, and the audience was laughing and applauding through to the end.

If fan opinion and enthusiasm on the internet was so real, then both Serenity and Green Lantern would have been massive hits when they got released, but weren't.

Funny how people pick and choose when the critics score is more important, but then jump onto fan scores when the critic scores don't suit them.

Originally posted by roughrider
If you take the scoring of fans literally, then IMDB has The Shawshank Redemption as the Greatest Movie Of All Time (I'm a fan of the film, but it's nowhere near that level.) Players get voted into AllStar games and have that on their resumes due to fans stuffing ballots.

Fans are fans, not detached observers like critics are supposed to be. Their opinion is often not an informed one, too based on emotion.

Besides , polling of audience reaction of the reboot gives them movie an B+ rating so far, which is good. I was at the theatre for this last night, and the audience was laughing and applauding through to the end.

If fan opinion and enthusiasm on the internet was so real, then both Serenity and Green Lantern would have been massive hits when they got released, but weren't.

It's just we're supposed to believe Critics are not making any reviews based on emotion, but in some of the positive reviews they almost feel the need to point out the controversy, etc. They almost feel like they have to justify it.

For me, I look at majority. Critics don't have some special spidey sense that allows them to better appreciate movies. They don't have this thing that automatically takes emotion out of it. So I'm not sure what you are talking about, fan reaction so far seems mixed.

The fact is if people are going to use rotten tomatoes, the GA score can't be ignored, period.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Funny how people pick and choose when the critics score is more important, but then jump onto fan scores when the critic scores don't suit them.

I understand your point, but at the same time I just find it silly to more or less say "well these thousands of thousands of people just can't separate emotion from a movie when reviewing it so those views are skewed" but the people who make a living off reviewing it don't have skewed views? It just sounds silly to me.

I like how some people are still crying about BvS getting very low critic scores. However, I should point out that I didn't ignore GA scores, in fact I posted them more than once.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I like how some people are still crying about BvS getting very low critic scores. However, I should point out that I didn't ignore GA scores, in fact I posted them more than once.

You mean the same way you're crying now about Great Critic scores for Ghostbustets 😂

Bullshit, you always ignored the Fan scores for BvS making out it was Objectively shit based on the opinion of Critics.

I guess this is Objectively great then and you owe Firefly money 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
I understand your point, but at the same time I just find it silly to more or less say "well these thousands of thousands of people just can't separate emotion from a movie when reviewing it so those views are skewed" but the people who make a living off reviewing it don't have skewed views? It just sounds silly to me.

Oh I completely agree. RT scores are always based on the views of 200-300 critics.

And to say they're free from Bias is frankly laughable.

I'm just calling out the double standards and hypocrisy from the people who pick and choose when Critics scores matter and ignoring them when they don't like those scores 😂

The GA score is certainly NOT reliable.

1. People who haven't even seen the movie are allowed to score it

2. There's an organized faction of people campaigning to downvote/sink the movie however and wherever they can despite not having seen it

These things result in fan scores being heavily skewed, especially for such a controversial flick with fervent haters. There's definitely lots of fans who give genuine unbiased scores, but in general critics are more trustworthy. The critics score is 76% rt and 67% Metacritic, which are both generally positive.

So I take pay pal

Actually it's score is 74% on RT and if you just use the top critics, it's substantially lower. So take those and the GA scores and we are left with it being at best mediocre.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually it's score is 74% on RT and if you just use the top critics, it's substantially lower. So take those and the GA scores and we are left with it being at best mediocre.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Quit biching now and pay up

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Originally posted by Firefly218
The movie is certified fresh by critics and GA scores are compromised and untrustworthy. Quit biching now and pay up

Not by the top critics it's not and the GA score isn't very good. But continue to make excuses. I knew you would welch on the bet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not by the top critics it's not and the GA score isn't very good. But continue to make excuses. I knew you would welch on the bet.

I also take checks

Does anyone else find it ironic that the person who is ignoring 2/3rds of the info RT provides is accusing other people of cherry-picking?

BTW, please provide proof that people have created 10 accounts to down vote the movie and also prove that nobody created multiple accounts to up vote it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Does anyone else find it ironic that the person who is ignoring 2/3rds of the info RT provides is accusing other people of cherry-picking?

BTW, please provide proof that people have created 10 accounts to down vote the movie and also prove that nobody created multiple accounts to up vote it.

I'm not ignoring anything. The critic consensus is positive.

The fact that both those things are possible means the GA score isn't trustworthy. You just proved my point. Neither of those things should be possible, but they are.

I'll take cash too

All critics 73
Top critics score is 57
GA score is 52

GB is definitely generally positive. I doubt it will be better than the OG, but I think it will be enjoyable all around.

Originally posted by Silent Master
All critics 73
Top critics score is 57
GA score is 52

i liked it. it was pretty funny for the most part and the chemistry of all the actresses was solid.

Just saw it. Fantastic movie that I'd definitely recommend. Don't listen to the controversy bullshit, 7.5/10. Also there's an after credits scene