Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not only that, but in the Rockyverse Apollo is considered the greatest fighter ever and was supposed to be Ali. Yeah, I'd say he's far from normal himself
That was before Rocky, Lang, and Drago showed up. Although, Apollo could defeat Lang by outlasting him.
Originally posted by juggerman
Except Apollo was clearly considered when the brain damage was being discussed
Sure, he contributed to it, just not as much as Drago.
Originally posted by Psychotron
That was before Rocky, Lang, and Drago showed up. Although, Apollo could defeat Lang by outlasting him.Sure, he contributed to it, just not as much as Drago.
Rocky was NEVER EVER considered better than Apollo at ANY point in his career. His record was spotty at best with quite a number of losses. Apollo was undefeated before losing to Rocky. At no point was Rocky considered above him in a best ever standings. That clearly and decisively belongs to Apollo
Originally posted by juggerman
Again, that was never stated or hinted at
Yeah, ok. The super-strong guy punching him for 15 rounds is not responsible for his brain damage, but the other, weaker, boxers are.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Rocky was NEVER EVER considered better than Apollo at ANY point in his career. His record was spotty at best with quite a number of losses. Apollo was undefeated before losing to Rocky. At no point was Rocky considered above him in a best ever standings. That clearly and decisively belongs to Apollo
Are you joking? Rocky gave him a beating in Rocky and defeated him in Rocky II. And this was before Rocky had Apollo's training and before he became the physical beast he was in Rocky IV. Prime Rocky would handle Creed with moderate difficulty.
You're not understanding something. Creed in the Rockyverse is considered the best ever NOT Rocky. Creed has one loss on his record.. one... Rocky has numerous losses. What is so unclear about this point? You're also not understanding that Apollo tried to prove a point. He was WELL AHEAD on the cards but wanted to KO Rocky.. he wanted to finish him. He was upset that people were saying Rocky took him the distance. The wasn't dancing around and jabbing rocky like he taught Rocky for no. 3. He was literally meeting him head on and going for the KO. If Apollo had chosen 2.. he would defeat any version of Rocky by simply boxing him. and staying away. EASY points victory. Not sure how this is lost on you.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're not understanding something. Creed in the Rockyverse is considered the best ever NOT Rocky. Creed has one loss on his record.. one... Rocky has numerous losses. What is so unclear about this point? You're also not understanding that Apollo tried to prove a point. He was WELL AHEAD on the cards but wanted to KO Rocky.. he wanted to finish him. He was upset that people were saying Rocky took him the distance. The wasn't dancing around and jabbing rocky like he taught Rocky for no. 3. He was literally meeting him head on and going for the KO. If Apollo had chosen 2.. he would defeat any version of Rocky by simply boxing him. and staying away. EASY points victory. Not sure how this is lost on you.
No, he was the best until Rocky KOed his ass. Sure, Creed could have won if he fought smart, but he didn't. He's prideful and that will cost him against Rocky. And like I said, Rocky was well bellow his peak at that point, Rocky losing before means nothing. If Creed faced Rocky as he was in Rocky IV he'd have zero chance of winning. Creed has no way of knocking him out and, and now Rocky knows his technique inside and out, and is actually faster than him, so dancing around him wouldn't work either. Oh, you mean like stayed away from him in Rocky I, the weakest, least skilled version of Rocky? This a KO in the 7th round for Rocky. Not sure how this is lost on you, but then again you are Quan Jr.
Originally posted by juggerman
His brain damage was cumulative. It didn't happen in one fight.
I never said it wasn't just cumulative, just that Drago has the biggest contribution to it.
Originally posted by Psychotron
No, he was the best until Rocky KOed his ass. Sure, Creed could have won if he fought smart, but he didn't. He's prideful and that will cost him against Rocky. And like I said, Rocky was well bellow his peak at that point, Rocky losing before means nothing. If Creed faced Rocky as he was in Rocky IV he'd have zero chance of winning. Creed has no way of knocking him out and, and now Rocky knows his technique inside and out, and is actually faster than him, so dancing around him wouldn't work either. Oh, you mean like stayed away from him in Rocky I, the weakest, least skilled version of Rocky? This a KO in the 7th round for Rocky. Not sure how this is lost on you, but then again you are Quan Jr.I never said it wasn't just cumulative, just that Drago has the biggest contribution to it.
So you're a moron then... good to know. Get back to me when you can grasp basic concepts and logic. Clearly you were absent the day God passed those out. Rocky losing before doesn't matter... umm idiot.. the main thing you judge a fighters all time standings is his fights... ya know.. all of them. Quan looks like a genius compared to you... jesus.
The amount of fanboyism for Drago within this thread is hilarious. For someone who is supposed to be so dangerous and powerful, it should not take the lowballing of Apollo and Lang to make Drago seem so dangerous.
If Drago hit Rocky once Apollo hit Rock 5 times. 5 times for every hit Drago gave Rocky and they were all to Rocky's head. 5 hits from Apollo would be more powerful and damaging than one hit from Drago.
If an average boxer punching power is somewhere between 500-700 PSI just times that by 5. That is saying Apollo hits were average which they weren’t they were above average. Rocky was the first person to go the distance with Apollo.
Yeah, if anyone is the reason why Rocky has brain damage it is because of Apollo first and foremost with everyone else coming in at second place.
I'd like to see you prove that, here is the Rocky vs Drago match, show me Apollo landing 5x that number in headshots like you're claiming.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'd like to see you prove that, here is the Rocky vs Drago match, show me Apollo landing 5x that number in headshots like you're claiming.
Originally posted by Kotor3 [QUOTE=15074904]Originally posted by Silent Master [QUOTE=15074900]Originally posted by Kotor3
LOL at your comment. Watch Rocky II.
LOL at the idea that pointing out your lies = me being a fanboy.