Originally posted by juggerman
Lang would get beat down.His durability is above Rocky's. Balboa never laughed off hits like Lang. With that said, he doesn't have Rocky's stamina to endure as long either
Actually, Rocky has better durability feats seeing as he took Drago level hits for 15 rounds...what durability feats does Lang have that can compete?
I swear people have obviously never competed in any combat sport they way they talk. Durability and Stamina aren't the same thing. If some of you had done a combat sport this would be painfully obvious to you. Lang doesn't have a chin issue... he had a stamina issue which was amplified by Rocky's strategy.. one most couldn't replicated anyways.
Originally posted by Robtard
While Lang had shit stamina (gassed by the 3rd, as noted), you think he was KO'd due to his stamina not being able to take punches, instead of his chin (durability in the MVF)? Odd, that
You'll have to excuse him, he has never been in an actual fight and seems to believe that taking punches has zero to do with durability.
Originally posted by Robtard
While Lang had shit stamina (gassed by the 3rd, as noted), you think he was KO'd due to his stamina not being able to take punches, instead of his chin (durability in the MVF)? Odd, that
As I said Rob, if you competed in a combat sport you would know what it feels like when you're dead tired. Shit, any sport really... Get tired at basketball and see if you can jump as high.. box somebody out as well. All things you could do just fine prior, but once you get tired... everything starts to give way... Including willpower. Look no further than the Foreman vs. Ali fight... Ali punches didn't hurt Foreman enough to KO him... Foreman has taken way way bigger shots from bigger punchers than Ali and not gone down let alone KO'd.... he was simply gassed and didn't even have the energy to get back up and his will was zapped. Again, this should be painfully obvious to anybody with sporting experience.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll have to excuse him, he has never been in an actual fight and seems to believe that taking punches has zero to do with durability.
I've never been in a fight BWAHAHAHAHHA... That's is so rich coming from you. Should I post the amount of times I've said that to you.. and the first to do so? Using my lines now eh? What's funnier is when you comeback with I was a Navy Seal BWHAHHAHA. I've been in more fights than you've watched on television... having actually been in street fights and boxed when I was a teenager. Which is why your statement is utterly laughable. At no point, no point, have I said your ability to take punches has nothing to do with your chin. Quote where I said this or admit your a liar.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
As I said Rob, if you competed in a combat sport you would know what it feels like when you're dead tired. Shit, any sport really... Get tired at basketball and see if you can jump as high.. box somebody out as well. All things you could do just fine prior, but once you get tired... everything starts to give way... Including willpower. Look no further than the Foreman vs. Ali fight... Ali punches didn't hurt Foreman enough to KO him... Foreman has taken way way bigger shots from bigger punchers than Ali and not gone down let alone KO'd.... he was simply gassed and didn't even have the energy to get back up and his will was zapped. Again, this should be painfully obvious to anybody with sporting experience.
LoL! This Guy. In your rush to copy me in using the "Ali Vs Foreman" as a reference here you failed to realize that Foreman took close to 6 rounds of Ali punching him in the face before he lost in round 8 and his face was visibly damaged by round 4-5. Epic error on your part
Lang on the other hand lasted less than a single round after he taxed himself, cos his chin is made of sauce that is weak, which is the point, fella
imo, you should get in your first fight, be it the street or the ring, even if you know you'll lose, it will teach you something
Are you slow? I never said I was a Navy Seal, I said I was trained by one during boot-camp. If I was going to claim that I was a Seal, I would have said that I got the training during bud/s and not boot camp. and don't even try and claim that I was trying to mislead people, as I've corrected people before when they misunderstood what I meant.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't go through Seal training, one of my regular boot camp DIs was a Seal.srank has just seen Full Metal Jacket one to many times.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL! This Guy. In your rush to copy me in using the "Ali Vs Foreman" as a reference here you failed to realize that Foreman took close to 6 rounds of Ali punching him in the face before he lost in round 8 and his face was visibly damaged by round 4-5. Epic error on your partLang on the other hand lasted less than a single round after he taxed himself, cos his chin is made of sauce that is weak, which is the point, fella
imo, you should get in your first fight, be it the street or the ring, even if you know you'll lose, it will teach you something
You are a total and complete moron.. and I mean literally a moron. You've never got in a fight in your entire life and that is painfully obvious. Not only that you're trying to talk to me about boxing as if you know even 1/10 of what I've forgotten. What Foreman vs. Chuvalo... Lyle... Morrison... Holyfield... Cooney... Frazier (no. 2) Shit even Briggs.. Ever single one of them hits harder than Ali and they never stopped him. Holyfield and Morrison literally unloaded on him and never ever really fazed him. I'm curious do you try and be a moron or does it come naturally? Watch these fights and you'll figure it out.. Foreman going down had everything to do with his stamina and little to do with him not being able to take a punch.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You are a total and complete moron.. and I mean literally a moron. You've never got in a fight in your entire life and that is painfully obvious. Not only that you're trying to talk to me about boxing as if you know even 1/10 of what I've forgotten. What Foreman vs. Chuvalo... Lyle... Morrison... Holyfield... Cooney... Frazier (no. 2) Shit even Briggs.. Ever single one of them hits harder than Ali and they never stopped him. Holyfield and Morrison literally unloaded on him and never ever really fazed him. I'm curious do you try and be a moron or does it come naturally? Watch these fights and you'll figure it out.. Foreman going down had everything to do with his stamina and little to do with him not being able to take a punch.
You sound really mad now, but it's actually your fault for blindly using a reference point you know little to nothing about. I also see you've taken the time to google "George Foreman" and are arbitrarily listing matches as some means to save face
Reality: Ali taunted Foreman into gassing himself so Foreman would be left nigh defenseless and then Ali could take his time dancing around and picking him apart with punches to the face, which is exactly what happened. FFS, the entire 1974 fight is on youtube, best if you watch it now, super-boxer-man
What is so funny is u think I haven't watched the fight many more times than you've only seen it referenced on sportscenter. It's honestly laughable u even think that LOLS. Robtard... watch the fights I listed, do some research on the sport so u can grasp what you're watching. There's nothing arbitrary about the fights I listed LMAO. Every single one of them hit harder than Ali n decisively so at that for most. They couldn't do the same.
Who are u trying to fool here? Ali at no point took over the fight n had George defenseless for rounds, shit even one. George in the round he was kod in still backed up Ali n was still banging away lol. You really are bad at this. If u ever got in a fight a day in ur life, or even participated in a sport at even the high school level, you'd understand foreman was fatigued more than hurt by those punches. The fact that u don't tell me all I need to know about you n ur knowledge of sports.
Don't watch the fight then and more "I'm the bestest fighter like ever!!!!!" rants. LoL!
Your concept that fighters don't fall due to having a weak chin, but only due to being tired is laughably sad and can be dismissed away by easily looking at 'Tyson Vs Frazier' 1986
If you watched this fight (you obvs didn't), you'd know that Tyson KO'd Frazier in about 30 seconds. Do you think this was due to Frazier's chin not being able to take the hits or because Frazier ran out of steam 30 secs into Round 1?
edit: HYG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPn7R_6r4o Starts @ 2:34, you're welcome
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The reality is this, his record still counts towards his all time standing. Sadly you have no idea somebody's record was important to such a placement. Doesn't get much dumber than that. What's worse is how anybody could look at his fight and think it was as competitive as Rocky vs. Drago, it wasn't, and it wasn't close.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqq27hG9g6A
If you watch this fight.. Rocky wins a grand total of won round before the TKO in the 15th. It was a horrific one sided beating. The ref even threatens to stop the fight. Mickey even wants to stop the fight. It was brutality. Drago vs. Rocky was very much a back and forth fight, much more so than this one. Which is why Rocky's trainer said.. The beating from Apollo should've killed you. It was THAT bad. He clearly landed a SIGNIFICANT number of more punches on Rocky than Drago did. Of that there can be no doubt as it was much more of one sided beating.
Point is, Apollo is considered the best ever in Rockyverse and it's not even close really. The beating he took clearly contributed to his condition and brain damage. We know Apollo was responsible for Rocky being partially blind in one eye. The point of all of this is quite simple. After Rocky learned the benefit of not meeting somebody head one when he can't take them like that... He STILL decided to do so against Drago and won... He knew he couldn't do the same with Lang... that speaks volumes about power and strength in and of itself.
Rocky won, then end. Get over it. It doesn't matter how one-sided it was if Apollo lost in the end. And why you keep ignoring the fact that this was a well bellow his prime Rocky is beyond me. Or the fact that that same Rocky almost defeated Apollo in their first fight. Not to mention that Apollo got destroyed by an opponent Rocky defeated.
Lol, no. He took Lang head on. That he blocked a few or dodged a few shots doesn't mean he didn't eat his clean hits and come back for more. Not to mention that Rocky took a shitload of shots to the body as well and kept going. This Lang wanking needs to stop, he has zero feats, he has crap stamina, and he's just a one trick pony.
Originally posted by Robtard
Don't watch the fight then and more "I'm the bestest fighter like ever!!!!!" rants. LoL!Your concept that fighters don't fall due to having a weak chin, but only due to being tired is laughably sad and can be dismissed away by easily looking at 'Tyson Vs Frazier' 1986
If you watched this fight (you obvs didn't), you'd know that Tyson KO'd Frazier in about 30 seconds. Do you think this was due to Frazier's chin not being able to take the hits or because Frazier ran out of steam 30 secs into Round 1?
edit: HYG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPn7R_6r4o Starts @ 2:34, you're welcome
It's official u are a moron. AT NO POINT, anywhere have I EVER posted that ur only kod via fatigue n never because of ur chin. Not one time did I ever say such a thing. You got owned so bad in this thread n others now you're resorting to making shit up LMAO PITIFUL. We're discussing ONE particular fight, a fight you've clearly never watched. A fight where fatigue was the main factor. Yet somehow in ur idiocy n butt hurt from being owned that's conflated to all fights. Jesus ur dumb
Originally posted by Silent Master
KuRuPT Thanosi: Frazier obviously didn't get enough sleep that week and was thus very tired, in fact Frazier was about 5 seconds away from falling asleep when Tyson hit him.
Another post from girly girl silent avoiding my previous post address to him. Now either quote what u claimed I said or concede ur a liar n I never said that. You won't n you'll rum away like usual
Originally posted by RobtardYes. This was clear from the movie.
While Lang had shit stamina (gassed by the 3rd, as noted), you think he was KO'd due to his stamina not being able to take punches, instead of his chin (durability in the MVF)? Odd, that
Quotes from Rocky – “I know what I am doing.” “He’s getting tired”.
Quotes from Lang’s Manager – “Stop trying to take him out with one punch.” “Use your head, you’re the champ and let him come to you”. “Wear him out he’s all yours”.
As we know Rocky baited Lang into wearing himself out. Then Rocky punches took effect on a wore out Lang.
This is straight from Ali and Foreman fight. If you ever seem commentary on the fight. Ali was wearing himself out in the heat by throwing so many punches. At this point Foreman also seem impenetrable since Ali hits were not having any effect on him. So Ali decided to let Foreman tire himself out and get weak instead of himself. Note - Ali baited Foreman into tiring himself out by constantly talking to him during the fight telling him "is that all you got" as Rocky did with Lang.
Originally posted by Robtard
Lang's not good at taking punches, Lang is good at delivering a shit-ton of damage and ending fights early in (similar to a young Mike Tyson)
Agreed
Originally posted by Robtard
Balboa did laugh off Lang's hits when he purposely tanked them and taunted Lang (similar to Ali Vs Foreman 1974)
He didn't tank them, he blocked them. Every single hit Rocky took head on rocked him. Every one. He only taunted and asked for more when he was blocking the hits.
Originally posted by Robtard
This is why Lang got his ass kicked by a revamped Rocky in their second match and didn't last long into the 3rd round
Yes Rocky tired him out, but he never tanked a Lang shot.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, Rocky has better durability feats seeing as he took Drago level hits for 15 rounds...what durability feats does Lang have that can compete?
Yes, but Rocky has never no sold a professional boxers punches. Ever. Lang has and it was his standard. So that tells me Lang would be able to handle Drago's shot at least as well as Rocky did, but probably better. Just not as long
Originally posted by Psychotron
Lol, no. He took Lang head on.
Nope
Originally posted by Psychotron
That he blocked a few or dodged a few shots doesn't mean he didn't eat his clean hits and come back for more.
He blocked and dodged most of them. And he never took a clean hit and asked for more. Every clean shot rocked him. He only taunted while blocking
Originally posted by Psychotron
Not to mention that Rocky took a shitload of shots to the body as well and kept going.
He took 8 total body shots and at least 3 were blocked.
Originally posted by Psychotron
This Lang wanking needs to stop, he has zero feats, he has crap stamina, and he's just a one trick pony.
The lowballing needs to stop