Clubber Lane runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by Silent Master
All hits count towards durability, not just ones that hit certain body parts, so you'd need to count the number of hits total and compare them and why are you only counting the first rounds....the fights lasted 15 rounds.

I used the first round as an example. I hope you are not stating that in the later rounds Drago hits Rocky even more. Round one was his best attack on Rocky. Apollo, hits do not come close to letting up until about the last round. There are parts in the Rocky II where the Rocky's wife is saying (concerning Rock) "just hit him once".

If you want to count the hits that Apollo landed in comparison to Drago for every round feel free to do so. The 1st is a good enough of an example to show the ratio. Unless you are implying that Drago hit Rocky more?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not to mention that Drago was shown to hit around 3x harder than Heavyweight boxers.

As for 3 times harder, let’s remember that Apollo knocked out all previous fighters before Rocky. His punch powering had to be above normal in order to do that.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Plus since you want to compare round 1, it took Drago far less hits to knock Rocky down.

Let’s not forget that Apollo knock down Rocky in the 1st and second rounds. If I remember correctly it may have been twice in the second round. I am not sure about one.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, you're the only one who thought Lestov was saying Rocky's head swelled up like a balloon or something, unless you're purposely just strawmanning again

You're just repeating what I said about you back at me again and you don't understand what "backpedaling" refers to in a debate. My points are the same as they've always been, sport

ps I've seen the montage a minimum of 50,000 times, since we're arbitrarily making shit up now apparently

Show me where I said like a balloon? he clearly says the size of his head increases.. Since I was specifically asking if he believed he built up muscles in his head to help with impact. He responds with what I quoted. Could be more clear.

HUH? You said Neck Bridges help with strengthening muscles and then I point out that Rocky never did neck bridges AND it doesn't for sure help in taking any punch. It MAY only help in not losing consciousness nothing more. THEN, you listed other things he did in the montage that help neck muscles a bit. To which I illustrate the exercises you now changed to main purpose isn't even the neck. Further, I asked for the case study you've done on these exercises helping punch resistance since you unquestionably said it does help. NOW PROVE YOUR CASE and post your sources on case study on the subject. If not, concede you have literally no idea if it helped Rocky take blows better.

To even say Drago hit Rocky more than Apollo in a flat out lie. Apollo hits Rocky more times and there can be no debate about that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Show me where I said like a balloon? he clearly says the size of his head increases.. Since I was specifically asking if he believed he built up muscles in his head to help with impact. He responds with what I quoted. Could be more clear.

HUH? You said Neck Bridges help with strengthening muscles and then I point out that Rocky never did neck bridges AND it doesn't for sure help in taking any punch. It MAY only help in not losing consciousness nothing more. THEN, you listed other things he did in the montage that help neck muscles a bit. To which I illustrate the exercises you now changed to main purpose isn't even the neck. Further, I asked for the case study you've done on these exercises helping punch resistance since you unquestionably said it does help. NOW PROVE YOUR CASE and post your sources on case study on the subject. If not, concede you have literally no idea if it helped Rocky take blows better.

Keep dancing, balloon-head-guy

I said that extreme training helps build a fighter's durability(cos it does, part of why they train). I then linked you to one site showing the benefits of neck strength conditioning as it could relate to a boxer. You of course focus on the singular instead of the bigger picture and start claiming that unless Rocky was explicitly shown wobbling around on his head, he didn't condition himself for his fight with Drago, cos you're a silly man and that's what silly men do

Drago knocked Rocky down in the 1st, 2nd, 5th, twice in the 9th and once in the 12th round. That is 6 times....remind me how many times Apollo managed to knock Rocky down in part II?

Originally posted by Robtard
Keep dancing, balloon-head-guy

I said that extreme training helps build a fighter's durability(cos it does, part of why they train). I then linked you to one site showing the benefits of neck strength conditioning as it could relate to a boxer. You of course focus on the singular instead of the bigger picture and start claiming that unless Rocky was explicitly shown wobbling around on his head, he didn't condition himself for his fight with Drago, cos you're a silly man and that's what silly men do

Sorry bud, he said the size of his head increased, no amount of covering up and denying changes it. It's okay, I can see you two make a cute couple

concession accepted you have NO proof that the exercises YOU"RE NOT claiming helps muscles in any way helped Rocky take more punches. I had hope you'd post your extensive research on the subject, instead you just ducked and dodged better than Rocky in No. 3. Kudos, you're a master at avoiding to prove your conclusions.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Drago knocked Rocky down in the 1st, 2nd, 5th, twice in the 9th and once in the 12th round. That is 6 times....remind me how many times Apollo managed to knock Rocky down in part II?

I said he landed more punches (which he unquestionably did), show me where I claimed he knocked him down more Silent.. Or are you just making up stuff I said again?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Drago knocked Rocky down in the 1st, 2nd, 5th, twice in the 9th and once in the 12th round. That is 6 times....remind me how many times Apollo managed to knock Rocky down in part II?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sorry bud, he said the size of his head increased, no amount of covering up and denying changes it. It's okay, I can see you two make a cute couple

concession accepted you have NO proof that the exercises YOU"RE NOT claiming helps muscles in any way helped Rocky take more punches. I had hope you'd post your extensive research on the subject, instead you just ducked and dodged better than Rocky in No. 3. Kudos, you're a master at avoiding to prove your conclusions.

Yes, yes, "we gay" or something, glad to see this is all you're left with now

And the arbitrary "concession accepted" bit cos you can't refute the truth/facts

Originally posted by Kotor3
What is your point? By your standards your own point of Rocky being more durable in Rocky IV would fail since he got knocked down so many times.

Sure, as long as you completely ignore that Drago punches much harder than Apollo. but go ahead and keep ignoring facts that you don't like.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Drago knocked Rocky down in the 1st, 2nd, 5th, twice in the 9th and once in the 12th round. That is 6 times....remind me how many times Apollo managed to knock Rocky down in part II?

One of the themes of Rocky V was that Rocky had sustained serious brain damage due to going 15 rounds with Drago and his Super-Punch

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It's like some of these people don't Rocky at all, not even a little bit

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure, as long as you completely ignore that Drago punches much harder than Apollo. but go ahead and keep ignoring facts that you don't like.

Once again I ask what is your point? Do you have one?

Look, I get that you don't understand that being in better shape helps you absorb damage and that Rocky in part IV was in much better shape than he was in II.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, yes, "we gay" or something, glad to see this is all you're left with now

And the arbitrary "concession accepted" bit cos you can't refute the truth/facts

Let me know when you can prove YOUR CLAIM.. Not mine YOURS. You claimed these news things you saw in the montage helped Rocky take a punch. I'm awaiting the case study on it. Let me know when you post it or I'll just accept your concession that you have none right here and now. Thanks bud

Correct, Rocky's extreme training in Rocky IV was so Rocky could get all ripped/sexy for the Soviet audience and had absolutely nothing to due in strengthening and conditioning himself for the fight, it was purely aesthetics (that's sarcasm btw)

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Originally posted by Robtard
Correct, Rocky's extreme training in Rocky IV was so Rocky could get all ripped/sexy for the Soviet audience and had absolutely nothing to due in strengthening and conditioning himself for the fight, it was purely aesthetics (that's sarcasm btw)

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Still waiting on how that improved his PUNCH RESISTANCE i.e. HIS CHIN. Nobody claimed training doesn't help in boxing.. something I would know about but you wouldn't have never competed at anything athletic your entire life. We're talking about CHIN here. Again putting words in my mouth.. It must get old having me crush you over and over again that you resort to this. Point to ANYPLACE where I said training doesn't help a boxer in a fight.... QUOTE ME you moron. Ohhh that's right I never said that. Now, which one of those exercises helped Rocky's chin again?

Oh my, you're going full rage again and please spare everyone the "I am a superior athlete" rants

ps Watch the montage vid already

Originally posted by Silent Master
Look, I get that you don't understand that being in better shape helps you absorb damage and that Rocky in part IV was in much better shape than he was in II.

Ok, I'll play your little game Silent Master since you like to dance around instead of answering questions directly and nitpick the ones you want to answer.

In Rocky III he lost a lot of his durability due to lack of training, overconfidence, and because he lost his drive or hungry. Apollo says he needs to get it back like he was when they fought. By the end of the movie he gets his himself back to the way he was in Rocky II(his durability) while adding more skill, speed, and agility.

So tell me, from a scale from 1 to 10, how durable was Rocky in Rocky II and how durable in Rocky IV?

Please dance around this one.

I didn't base my statement about Rocky being in much better shape in part IV on his looks, I based it on the level of training he was shown doing in both movies.

Great now answer the question PLEASE!