Clubber Lane runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh so, you aren't debating the topic. You're just bytching about semantics and wording. IOW trolling. Now your butthurt makes sense.

So now I'm responsible for you misstating things? How ironic is that. As I said, if you can't answer a question than just don't or say what you really mean. Don't blame me for laughing at your incorrect response and then going... yeah well I really meant this.

NOW, which part of the training montage increased Rocky's ability to take a punch to the face? Do tell.

Originally posted by Psychotron
This thread has gone full retard. Or maybe we should call it "full KuRuPT" from now on?

Other person that was crushed and butthurt LMAO

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So now I'm responsible for you misstating things? How ironic is that. As I said, if you can't answer a question than just don't or say what you really mean. Don't blame me for laughing at your incorrect response and then going... yeah well I really meant this.

NOW, which part of the training montage increased Rocky's ability to take a punch to the face? Do tell.

All of it. If only his body's muscles increased and not his head, his head would be disproportionately small compared to his body. Simple logic which seems to evade you.

Everyone knows that extreme training does nothing for boxers in regards to stamina and durability, it's just for sexy looks, Lestov, why continue arguing with Kurupt's "facts"

Originally posted by Psychotron
This thread has gone full retard. Or maybe we should call it "full KuRuPT" from now on?

He's definitely giving Quan a run for his money 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
You're just repeating what I said to you again 👆

I'm sure you recognize the "debating tactic" and that it'll come as no surprise that he is also a Thanos fan.

REALLY giving Quan a run for his money 😆

Originally posted by Silent Master
So showing Lang being knocked out by Rocky punching him isn't proof that Lang can be knocked out by punches?

It is not proof that Lang lacks durability thus causing Rocky to knocked him out. Here is an example. Ali knocked Foreman out in the 8 round, however other weaker fighters went 15 rounds with Ali. Did Foreman have an durability issue or could not take hits? No. That is clearly seen from his other fights and that fact that he went the distance with another fighter a few fights later after the Ali fight.

Ali beat Foreman by using strategy and making him wear himself out. The same thing Rocky did to Lang.

I already provided the quote from Lang's manager who told him to let Rocky come to him and let Rocky wear himself out and to stop trying to take Rocky out with one punch.

Notice the word 'WEAR'. Once Lang was wore out, tired and weak, then his durability became at a level in which Rocky hits started to have an effect.

If you deny that then prove it that my statement is not true and that Rocky hits had an effect on a full strength Lang and that he did not have to tire Lang out.

Originally posted by Lestov16
All of it. If only his body's muscles increased and not his head, his head would be disproportionately small compared to his body. Simple logic which seems to evade you.

Wait so you're saying his head increased in size 2? OMFG I thought I'd never seen something so retarded posted in my life, and if I did, it would be Robbie. Clearly, I was mistaken. Okay, WHICH training increased the size and density of Rocky's head and thus increased his ability to take a punch to the face? WHICH PART OF THE TRAINING?

IOW, Rocky overcame Lang's durability.

Originally posted by Robtard
Everyone knows that extreme training does nothing for boxers in regards to stamina and durability, it's just for sexy looks, Lestov, why continue arguing with Kurupt's "facts"

Please tell me you also believe the training Rocky was doing increased the size and density of Rocky's head like Lestov just claim. PLEASE tell me you also believe that!!! BWAHAHAHAH OMG!!!

Quote where I said those things are just for sexy looks... you still can't beat me in a debate can you Robbie. You have to claim things I never said or even implied. Should I ask for a quote where I said this or just call you a liar directly? In fact, I said it can help you take a punch to the body... those exercises in no way shape or form help your chin... not even in the least.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, Rocky overcame Lang's durability.

IOW, Rocky overcame every fighters durability that he fought. No one is more durable than Rocky.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, Rocky overcame Lang's durability.

Lang got tired more than anything. Obviously the punches didn't tickle him and eventually they caused enough hurt to put him down. However, it had more to do with stamina than Rocky taxing his chin. Both contributed to him going down, just one more than the other.

Silent, are you like Lestov and believe Rocky increased the size of his head and density of it with the Training he was doing in Rocky 4?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please tell me you also believe the training Rocky was doing increased the size and density of Rocky's head like Lestov just claim. PLEASE tell me you also believe that!!! BWAHAHAHAH OMG!!!

Quote where I said those things are just for sexy looks... you still can't beat me in a debate can you Robbie. You have to claim things I never said or even implied. Should I ask for a quote where I said this or just call you a liar directly? In fact, I said it can help you take a punch to the body... those exercises in no way shape or form help your chin... not even in the least.

You're going full rage now 👆 👆

And now you're accusing me of a strawman after I pointed out your multiple strawman tactics 👆

But here, let me hold your hand again:

"Building neck strength takes time and patience. It can't be done overnight. Incorporating exercises such as neck bridges and reverse neck bridges can allow you to build important stabilizing muscles in your neck and upper back that may translate to an improved chin in the ring." ie the ability to take a punch

http://www.livestrong.com/article/417001-how-to-get-a-stronger-chin-in-boxing/

One of many articles on the web 🙂

Rocky is more durable than Lang though, as he withstood 15 rounds of Drago level punches, while Lang was beat with just 3 rounds of Rocky level hits.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Because he far more physically built and logically far stronger, which is supported by screenfeats. Again, if you want to prove Clubber is strong enough that after numerous rounds with The Stallion, he could still lift a man one handed and throw him like Drago did, you are going to have to prove that....or concede that Drago is stronger.

This point has been addressed:

Originally posted by juggerman
Lifting power =/= striking power. But no, I don't see Lang ragdolling that guy like Drago

Agreed, Juggs, but the whole point in showing Drago's PSI punch during his montage (and the roid reference) was to illustrate that Drago hits harder than any boxer Rocky has faced before

Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, Juggs, but the whole point in showing Drago's PSI punch during his montage (and the roid reference) was to illustrate that Drago hits harder than any boxer Rocky has faced before

But, Lang punches had a more visible effect on his version of Rocky than Drago's did on a much more physically fit Rocky. 🙄

Originally posted by Robtard
You're going full rage now 👆 👆

And now you're accusing me of a strawman after I pointed out your multiple strawman tactics 👆

But here, let me hold your hand again:

"Building neck strength takes time and patience. It can't be done overnight. Incorporating exercises such as neck bridges and reverse neck bridges can allow you to build important stabilizing muscles in your neck and upper back that may translate to an improved chin in the ring." ie the ability to take a punch

http://www.livestrong.com/article/417001-how-to-get-a-stronger-chin-in-boxing/

One of many articles on the web 🙂

First off, again I'll have to correct you on what has actually been said. HE CLAIMED... The size of Rocky's head increased with the exercises he was doing. Now, I'm asking you, do you also believe this? Second, the exercises you mention were NEVER shown in the training Montage... The closest thing he does was an exercise building your abs. Point me to the part of the Montage where Neck bridges occur? If you can't, then why would you post exercise that "may" (I'll get to this in a second) increase your ability to take a punch if he was never shown doing them? Now you've resorted to try ANYTHING to get the better of me and you've failed miserably again. Third, it says it "may" increase your ability to take a punch which means there is no proof that it actually does. So not only did you post exercises Rocky was never shown doing, but you posted things that may or may not help. This is what you call holding my hand LMAO. Owned again Robbie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, Juggs, but the whole point in showing Drago's PSI punch during his montage (and the roid reference) was to illustrate that Drago hits harder than any boxer Rocky has faced before

I also believe it was to demonstrate that. I said so long long ago that I believe that was the presentation of the scene. Problem is, by feats that just isn't so. Not just by feats but by the whole Choreography of the fight that isn't so. Most things point to lang hitting harder than Drago. Though again, I do agree that was the intent of that scene.