Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah and I think the scene with theSpoiler:was straight out of the comics.
gun taped to Matt's handsThis Punisher makes the one from the movie look like a giant pussy.
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Yeah, its from the comics. They changed it though. In the comic, Murdock decides to shoot Punisher. Punisher thought ahead though and gave him an empty gun. Then he killed the dude anyways.I think they changed it for the better. It would have made Matt look weak as hell.
On episode 8. Honestly
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I agree with foggy. Im getting tired of Matts shit. It was one thing in season one when he was working on the same case as both daredevil and Matt but hes lampooning the punisher trial while still making decisions in it that could **** over foggy and page. Either one or the other.
Originally posted by HueyFreeman
On episode 8. HonestlySpoiler:
I agree with foggy. Im getting tired of Matts shit. It was one thing in season one when he was working on the same case as both daredevil and Matt but hes lampooning the punisher trial while still making decisions in it that could **** over foggy and page. Either one or the other.
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Is matt retarded? That conversation with fisk. Why not just hold up a neon sign that says "kill me, kill my best friend , kill my girl, and my dog if I have one"
Just finished watching the season and, first thoughts are that it is, overall, better than season 1, but only because of a few brilliant stand out episodes and performances.
The decline in Matty - Foggy - Karen time, made it a much less endearing and warm show, more like a Christopher Nolan marathon (especially so, with the predictable finale, where the score felt like it had been lifted out of Dark Knight Rises). Not that that's a bad thing, just that Daredevil had managed to raise the standards far higher than that.
Foggy was great, Karen beautiful and brilliant in her transition from office bod to investigator to reporter ... Just so smoothly done without ever making you feel as if she was a plot contrivance type character.
I loved The Punisher. Never liked Jon Bernthal, in TWD (didn't/don't really like TWD for that matter), but he really made Frank Castle come alive and made you feel for him. That's both a testament to his performance as well as the general writing around the character (Marvel has always been very strong with The Punisher, imo).
The whole moral dynamic between DD and Punisher was awesome, really got you invested in both perspectives and
Spoiler:felt like such a euphoric moment that I almost leapt out of my chair - I've never come to despise a fictional character that powerfully, that quickly and that unashamedly! -- it was magical.
Reyes' death
That said, the big intricate plots were all a let down.
Spoiler:, boring. Though I am glad it was resolved quickly.
The Blacksmith turning out to be a simple drug deal, unconnected to The magical shit of The Hand
Sadly, The Hand arc turned turgid as soon as it circled in and around Elektra.
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The Black Sky was a huge disappointment. Elektra generally, was boring and borderline insufferable. Almost sunk the entire season with her and her tale.
What promised to be some larger, monumental, centuries spanning movement, turned into a game of hide and seek with a little girl. It seemed such a waste of potential and needlessly brought Matt into the centre of things, whereas earlier the show had built up this clear view of Matt gnawing away at the fringes of something he neither comprehends nor has the character to deal with adequately (leading to the need for people like Stick, Punisher and even Elektra).
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Wilson Fisk is the ****ing best thing about DareDevil, season 1 and 2 and it is was his storyline, his scenes with Frank and DD, that really lifted the average for the season, beyond that of season 1.
Originally posted by ImpedimentI appreciate Imp
Fixed.I watched the first two episodes last night.
Awesome stuff.
I've only made it through the first four episodes and stopped. Those were kind of like a self contained story so it was a good stop point. I'm going to try to take the rest of the season slow and not blow through it. We'll see if that happens
Well, I finished the second season...
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The first few episodes(up until Castle's incarceration) were pure excellence--but the season began to fizzle out a bit after that, imo. I felt that the Elektra/Black Sky crap was just drawn out WAY too long. By the time it reached its crescendo, I'd ceased giving a phuck who/what the Black Sky was. VERY anticlimactic. Tbh, I think it was simply upstaged by the Punisher's side-story... And rightfully so.Suffice to say: every damn scene with the Punisher was fantastic. Shane absolutely killed that role... He brought some much-needed/deserved justice to the character's on-screen portrayal.
All-in-all, I'm happy with the season, but there should have been more Punisher and less Elektra, imo.
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