Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We're supposed to look at high showings 😕OP asked who would end up faster/stronger.
My point was, at his angriest, when Hulk was cutting loose, he was doing things that were insanely powerful....but still, physically possible. So if we assume that the angrier he gets, the faster he gets, as PER the OP, using his ANGRIEST ever, he will be really fast.
Flash, as per the OP, gets stronger the faster he gets. OP asked, how strong would he be at his fastest?
Now, considering we have seen Flash at his fastest, and Hulk at his angriest (i.e. HIGH showings), we should be able to extrapolate how strong/fast these new characters will be, based on their HIGH showings of speed and anger, respectively.
WBH destroyed that planet. Flash outran himself.
Originally posted by Bentley
Again, at no point that makes their feats equivalent.
It really does. Hulk has not shown a limit physically and has been able to a accomplish anything physically. Flash hasn't shown a speed limit and has been able to accomplish anything speed wise. His statement is true.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He HAS been shown to have a limit anger wise, though.And that is WBH. The angriest he has ever been. Can he get angrier than that? Yes/No/Who knows? We never will.
BUT, if we go by what has been shown in the past, the angriest Hulk ever still would not be as fast as the fastest Flash ever is strong.
It was never said that his anger stopped though and it has already been mentioned (more than once mind you) that there hasn't been any limits measured for his anger or his strength....
Hulk physical power is just as limitless as Flash speed and WBH being the angriest he's ever been hasn't been the only time that was mentioned. As long as he is pissed, the more powerful his strength becomes. Even during stressed moments.
Originally posted by carver9
It really does. Hulk has not shown a limit physically and has been able to a accomplish anything physically. Flash hasn't shown a speed limit and has been able to accomplish anything speed wise. His statement is true.
I didn't mean to refute his statement, I explicitly noted that at no point it was an equivalence that could be established when it comes to feats.
Also, you seem to be arguing about Hulk's potential, which is fine and dandy, I can't refute the possibility of Hulk eventually pulling a strenght feat as impressive as Flash has done with speed. I can easily note that Hulk hasn't the same level of feats as of now, which is a sensibility that I feel is being tossed aside a bit in our current discussion.
Originally posted by carver9
It was never said that his anger stopped though and it has already been mentioned (more than once mind you) that there hasn't been any limits measured for his anger or his strength....Hulk physical power is just as limitless as Flash speed and WBH being the angriest he's ever been hasn't been the only time that was mentioned. As long as he is pissed, the more powerful his strength becomes. Even during stressed moments.
Has it been said since WBH that he has been angrier?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Has it been said since WBH that he has been angrier?
Lol...no but I think you missed the point. By the way, you forgot about those moons that was destroyed by Hulk in the Dark Dimension. Then, if you want to add flavor to it all, Pak even confirms that Hulk destroyed the entire dimension during this scene, not just the planet.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...no but I think you missed the point. By the way, you forgot about those moons that was destroyed by Hulk in the Dark Dimension. Then, if you want to add flavor to it all, Pak even confirms that Hulk destroyed the entire dimension during this scene, not just the planet.
Yup. My point being, WBH was his angriest ever. And since then, he has not been shown to be any angrier. Ergo, that is his limit.
As for the dimension, like I said, a beastly feat, but still computable. You'd have to make some assumptions, like how many planets etc are there, but still workable.
Let me break it down for you. Who is stronger, WBH or WBH? Not a typo. Can WBH get so angry that he beats WBH?
Which Flash? Wally at his fastest is hilariously faster then Hulk, and could also just plain kill him before he processed a thought. If he was feeling nice he could just steal all his speed leaving him as a statue that takes a century just to blink.
But you mentioned this version being only able to run at the speed of sound. Well yeah, that version of Flash would be horribly screwed. At best, the only thing he could successfully do is flee from the Hulk.
It's also pointless to argue whether or not Hulk has a limit. Storywise, sure, he supposedly does not. If you want to use him in a debate? His limit is..well, the best thing we've seen him do.
Originally posted by Mindship
If WBH strength could be translated into speed, how fast would that be? Lightspeed? A thousand cee? A trillion?If Flash's outrunning death/himself/whatever could be translated into strength, how strong would Flash be? Planet lifter? Star thrower? Neutron-star juggler?
I'll put it to you this way, the strongest versions of both characters? Flash has way more speed then Hulk has strength. To an absurdly hilarious degree.