Loki vs The Thing

Originally posted by Stoic
He held Masterson by the neck with one hand, and slap slap slapped the shit out of him until he was KO'd. Why would he fly through these walls under those circumstances? You should go back and look at the scan. Ben would never slap Masterson Thor around though, Masterson Thor at full power would slap Ben around. Like I said, go back and look at the scan.

I don't have any beef in this fight and don't really care, but that should have never of happened. That's piss poor writing. Masterson was a clutz, but he still had the proportionate strength of Thor and that strength is greater then Loki's anytime and everytime. Has Thor ever gotten the same treatment from Loki?

Originally posted by tkitna
I don't have any beef in this fight and don't really care, but that should have never of happened. That's piss poor writing. Masterson was a clutz, but he still had the proportionate strength of Thor and that strength is greater then Loki's anytime and everytime. Has Thor ever gotten the same treatment from Loki?

Not that I can recall, but Loki has been able to stand up to Thor even if it was briefly. I don't really much care for this subject either, but Loki has shown that he is/was a physically strong character. It's his personality that makes him seem wimpy because he's not normally portrayed as the muscle. This however does not mean that he is weak. All the same, he has far greater endurance than a mortal like the Thing who gets tired after 30 minutes. Loki can fight or run for days without the lactic acid building up in his muscles to impair his performance.

The main problem with many of these versus threads, is that people only look at who is stronger, and they tend to forget that the characters have other things going for them. Agility, speed, combat experience, intelligence, endurance, durability... etc. Loki is actually superior to the Thing is a few of those categories.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's according to marvel, not me.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is a silly stance to take considering how wonky the Marvel database's,etc. are when giving people certain power levels.

What Marvel *thinks* a character is at is actually irrelevant. It's all about what a character has or has not done.

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You think that it's silly to take MARVELS outlook on THEIR character than abhilegend's...?

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Originally posted by Tony Stark

Originally posted by abhilegend
He trained them to fight class 100 characters like he does. It doesn't makes him class 100.

Riiiiiiiight... Riiiiiiiight 🙄

Glad it's settled then.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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You think that it's silly to take MARVELS outlook on THEIR character than abhilegend's...?

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Um, when Marvel has shown they don't know what the f*ck they are talking about when it comes to whatever powers and limits they give characters in their handbooks and whatever else? Yeah, I don't trust Marvel. I go by what the character has done, not by what Marvel says. Marvel is the same company that had Black Panther putting Silver Surfer in an armbar. You trust THAT?

Sort of like when Joss Whedon made a comment that Buffy the Vampire Slayer had Spider-Man levels of strength? Yeah, I said a big old "Nope" to that as well, because she hadn't done a damn thing to support that.

It's not uncommon for the people behind the comics to not know what the f*ck they are talking about. When Flash evacuated a city of half a million people in less then a second, carrying only 2-3 people at a time..do you know how fast DC said he was going? Yeah, they said he was going at the speed of light. Now, anyone with half a brain could see such a feat is massively massively faster then light. So now we do..what? Just say the feat is only lightspeed, despite what is actually on the panel showing us that is a vast understatement?

Originally posted by Surtur
Um, when Marvel has shown they don't know what the f*ck they are talking about when it comes to whatever powers and limits they give characters in their handbooks and whatever else? Yeah, I don't trust Marvel. I go by what the character has done, not by what Marvel says.

Sort of like when Joss Whedon made a comment that Buffy the Vampire Slayer had Spider-Man levels of strength? Yeah, I said a big old "Nope" to that as well, because she hadn't done a damn thing to support that.

It's not uncommon for the people behind the comics to not know what the f*ck they are talking about. When Flash evacuated a city of half a million people in less then a second, carrying only 2-3 people at a time..do you know how fast DC said he was going? Yeah, they said he was going at the speed of light. Now, anyone with half a brain could see such a feat is massively massively faster then light. So now we do..what? Just say the feat is only lightspeed, despite what is actually on the panel telling us the opposite?

I have a way of reconciling both statements, but people don't like it 😈

Here it is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He trained them to fight class 100 characters like he does. It doesn't makes him class 100.

Originally posted by tkitna
I don't have any beef in this fight and don't really care, but that should have never of happened. That's piss poor writing. Masterson was a clutz, but he still had the proportionate strength of Thor and that strength is greater then Loki's anytime and everytime. Has Thor ever gotten the same treatment from Loki?

Ms. Marvel overpowered Loki.. E'nuff said

When did Carol ever overpowered Loki?

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did Carol ever overpowered Loki?

Ms. Marvel #12 (2014)

You mean Kamala Khan overpowering teen Loki?

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I said Ms. Marvel didn't I? Kamala Khan was Ms. Marvel when she overpowered Loki right?

You need to admit when your wrong Loki is CL50 at the very best. Ben is more than twice as strong.

I accept your apology...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I have a way of reconciling both statements, but people don't like it 😈

Here it is.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
I said Ms. Marvel didn't I? Kamala Khan was Ms. Marvel when she overpowered Loki right?

You need to admit when your wrong Loki is CL50 at the very best. Ben is more than twice as strong.

I accept your apology...

Originally posted by Existere
Flash utilizing special relativity already reconciles both statements, if you feel the statements need to be reconciled.

Some people need extra help.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a load of BS. Thing has never been a class 100.

You just demonstrated how retarded Marvel is. The Thing has lifted objects that weigh far in excess of 100 tons. 100 tons is chump change. If there is a day where at best he is lifting 100 tons that is not a good day, but a very bad day.