Originally posted by Stigma
Just tell me this. You consider Bane an "elite" force user, but Vader is not one.
Even when Vader's force feats vastly outstrip Bane's? That's hillarious.
Bane's feats in POD alone are vastly superior to anything Vader has ever done. I'll remind everyone that you still haven't posted any of Vader's great feats, and instead tried to divert this into a topic about Bane.
Originally posted by appletonia
Zannah has performed feats arguably as great as Vader's best when she was an untrained child, and by DOE is fully trained,
Originally posted by appletonia
has some of the best sorcery we've ever seen,
Originally posted by appletonia
and power wise at the very least is right up there with Bane.
Originally posted by appletonia
Kas'im is probably the greatest techncial swordsman we've ever come across,
Originally posted by appletonia
as able to protect himself from Bane's temple destroying Force wave,
Wow, that was easy to debunk.😎
Originally posted by appletonia
Bane's feats in POD alone are vastly superior to anything Vader has ever done. I'll remind everyone that you still haven't posted any of Vader's great feats, and instead tried to divert this into a topic about Bane.
Because you've been so convincing in why POD Bane is superior to anyone.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Comparing Bane to Vader is silly. I'm not saying Vader would stomp Bane, but he's got better feats and accolades. Vader is more powerful, skilled, and experienced.
This is obvious, tbh.
I would also argue that Vader has the means to indeed stomp POD, and perhaps DOE, incarnations of Bane.
Originally posted by Stigma
Such as killing two featless mooks and disintegrating a hand of a non-force senstive child....... LOL.
Or protecting herself against the Brotherhood's Force Lightning storm ritual.
Does she?
Yes.
Which means she's still vastly inferior to Vader.
Stop trolling.
According to Bane's fallible opinion, that is. Kas'im also never beat anyone, really. He is borderline featless.
It was not according to Bane, it was according to the omniscient narrator. The passage details the extent to which Kas'im had mastered the twin sabers style, which was something Bane didn't even know Kas'im could use.
Not temple, but archway destroying. BIG difference. Also, the temple was ancient, probably on the verge of collapsing on itself.
Nope, the archway is what got hit first but the wave encompassed the entire temple. The passage makes a note of the fact that the temple was still in surprisingly good condition despite its age, and was able to withstand all sorts of the planet's own hostile weather. These temples were built to last and was still standing after thousands of years, it's unlikely it was soon just going to arbitrarily collapse around the time that it got hit with Bane's wave. You're also ignoring the sheer size of it, as has been further established by TOR; to be able to signficantly impact the entire thing with TK, even if on a per unit basis the wave wasn't even that powerful, is an absolutely staggering feat.
Wow, that was easy to debunk.😎
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Originally posted by |King Joker|
Why does that matter whether or not it's Legends canon or "Disney" canon?
Because they are two seperate continuities now and we're currently dealing with the Legends canon? The two continuities only share a small amount of material, this new comic is not one of them. Like... duh.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceI'd imagine it does not matter, really.
A good question. People are ready to use SoD Maul, but as soon as Vader crushes an AT-AT, it's just "Disney canon."
Morover, Vader crushing an AT-AT goes in line with him beaing able to go toe-to-toe with Starkiller (we all know how ridiculously powerful SK is) and being 80% of the most powerful Sith Lord to ever live.
Unless we see Ahsoka pwning Yoda and Sidious simultaneously, I think we're safe to use Disney too.
Originally posted by appletonia
Because they are two seperate continuities now and we're currently dealing with the Legends canon? The two continuities only share a small amount of material, this new comic is not one of them. Like... duh.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
A good question. People are ready to use SoD Maul, but as soon as Vader crushes an AT-AT, it's just "Disney canon."
The difference is that Son of Dathomir is an adaptation of unproduced scripts from the TCW cartoon (which exists in the Legends canon), that would have been produced as part of the show if it hadn't been cancelled. It's easy to see why people would make the distinction.
Originally posted by appletoniaUnless the OP specifically states "Disney" canon isn't allowed to be used then it can be used. Like... duh?
Because they are two seperate continuities now and we're currently dealing with the Legends canon? The two continuities only share a small amount of material, this new comic is not one of them. Like... duh.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice👆
TFU/TFU II Vader is capable of these things as well, and I already know you're one of those people who doesn't power scale. You just don't want to accept it because it would mean you just wasted an hour of your life trying to prove the most inferior version of Bane is somehow comparable to Vader, even when Bane isn't the object of this debate.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
TFU/TFU II Vader is capable of these things as well, and I already know you're one of those people who doesn't power scale.
I'm not opposed to power scaling, I just don't do it by default, and there's a big difference between power scaling between sources that deal with the same characters, and sources that are set from different time periods. TFU is purposefully an unrealistic portrayal of what these characetrs can do, and is incompatible with how they are usually depicted. That doesn't mean however, that a character from a differen era and of a different nature, Nihilus for example, can't simply be that powerful, and by extension much more powerful than the movie characters. You're conflating two different issues really.