Clark Kent -Vs- Ben Grimm

You know who has more heart then thing? Oh moon knight. Muahahahaha!

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-13.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-15.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-16.jpg

Originally posted by krisblaze
Action comics 15 through 18 or something.

It's probably in the respect thread 🙂

Thanks. I actually have the issues, just haven't read them.

Clark wins, grim has no feats to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, then you might as well prove that Ben hasn't fought many battles in which he's the major underdog 😖hifty:

Don't try it Frenchie!

Originally posted by -K-M-
You know who has more heart then thing? Oh moon knight. Muahahahaha!

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-13.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-15.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-16.jpg

Originally posted by -K-M-
You know who has more heart then thing? Oh moon knight. Muahahahaha!

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-13.jpg
2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-15.jpg
3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/MarvelTwoInOne052-16.jpg

In all honesty, saying someone has "great heart" is often really "they can get their ass kicked badly but impressively stay conscious."

But one of the rare times great heart really does count for more than "get your ass kicked and somehow stay awake" Benjy gets shown up. 😄

In all fairness Superman got the bojangles beaten out of him by Zod, and it really was a whole thing in that arc, Superman not having the same skill as Farore, Zod or Wonder Woman.

In all honesty (or fairness) bran can go to hell and he has a whoreish mouth

Sorry just wanted to keep the Combo going.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Only flight was used other than strength and durability.

😬

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You are penalizing the character for his powerset.

If Ben had more powers he would certainly use them as most of his confrontations involve life or death encounters.

When you allow each character to have the same mindset as it would be here, namely both being restricted to their base form, Ben's advantage is dubious.

If you really believe Superman fighting the Hulk uses the same amount of skill as Ben fighting the Hulk, you're mistaken.
Ben's skill is what lets him fight so far outside his weight class.
That skill would let him beat Clark Kent in the OP scenario.

I'm not penalizing Superman, but i'm not selectively calling the most powerful hero ever AND saying every fight he goes into he wins by sheer gumption and h2h skill.

Originally posted by riv6672
Ben cant fly. 😛

You're missing my point.

If you really believe Superman fighting the Hulk uses the same amount of skill as Ben fighting the Hulk, you're mistaken.
Ben's skill is what lets him fight so far outside his weight class.
That skill would let him beat Clark Kent in the OP scenario.

I'm not penalizing Superman, but i'm not selectively calling the most powerful hero ever AND saying every fight he goes into he wins by sheer gumption and h2h skill.

Ben usually just punches it out with hulk. No skills showing there. It wouldn't allow him to beat Clark, since it never matters against a fight with the hulk.

Originally posted by krisblaze
In all fairness Superman got the bojangles beaten out of him by Zod, and it really was a whole thing in that arc, Superman not having the same skill as Farore, Zod or Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So?

Not my thread, made my point, made it several more times, am comfortable with my opinion, not going to engage in a pointless argument.

You may now post your usual " concession accepted" reply when someone doesnt feel like running something into the ground with you...😉

Originally posted by abhilegend
So?

Ben usually just punches it out with hulk. No skills showing there. It wouldn't allow him to beat Clark, since it never matters against a fight with the hulk.

I want so see someone standing his ground against a much stronger opponent without any skill 😕

Originally posted by Bentley
I want so see someone standing his ground against a much stronger opponent without any skill 😕

Colossus regularly uses skill against stronger enemies, though.

Except when he's drunk, or badly written.

Originally posted by riv6672
What can i say to an argument on the level of " i know you are but what am i"?

Not my thread, made my point, made it several more times, am comfortable with my opinion, not going to engage in a pointless argument.

You may now post your usual " concession accepted" reply when someone doesnt feel like running something into the ground with you...😉

"Give me a proof".

*proof given*

"This is just my opinion and I'm not gonna change it no matter what you post".

Why ask for anything and waste everybody's time then? Just post one time in every thread and get out from Now on.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Colossus regularly uses skill against stronger enemies, though.

Except when he's drunk, or badly written.

mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
How did I knew you'd come here?

mmm

my town has a giant metal fist that lights up when someone disses colossus.

still don't have name for it, though...

Originally posted by -Pr-
my town has a giant metal fist that lights up when someone disses colossus.

still don't have name for it, though...

😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
my town has a giant metal fist that lights up when someone disses colossus.

still don't have name for it, though...

Colossus sucks. 😖hifty: