Originally posted by The_Tempest
Pretty sure Badabing recently and publicly admonished the dissenters for their thin skin. Not sure why some can't tolerate a difference in opinion. Feel free to protest and disagree, but to shout "troll!" every single time someone doesn't conform to the (frankly unpopular) notion that Bane is some demigod is pretty silly.JM2C
TBH the troll card has been used way too often than necessary, especially in heated debates imho.
Originally posted by Stigma
@ Neph, wow Bane will defend against Kyp's TK? Just curious.
Well I think he'll probably use a Force Shield.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I've done nothing to encourage your behavior, actually, and have done everything to try to curtail it bar complaining to moderators. But your hatred for Sidious and the PT has just spun wildly out of control.
Well thanks for proving my point?
Gonna go with bane. Kyps great with inanimate objects like the sun crusher, dovin basal, and freighter feats, where he can focus his power. Unfortunately against actual combatants or force users he just doesnt have the feats. Which is a shame because i feel like his character much like his force power has a lot of untapped potential.
Originally posted by Raptor22
Gonna go with bane. Kyps great with inanimate objects like the sun crusher, dovin basal, and freighter feats, where he can focus his power. Unfortunately against actual combatants or force users he just doesnt have the feats. Which is a shame because i feel like his character much like his force power has a lot of untapped potential.
He has feats like ragdolling Corran horn, manipulating torpedoes, and manipulating freighters. Whether or not he had to "focus" his power is irrelevant to the fact he is more powerful than Bane
Originally posted by carthageya maybe not the best example since corran has no tk and if i recall, right after that kenth hamner ragdolled kyp for corran. Unless u were trying to show that all u need is kenth hamner level tk to ragdoll kyp. In which case well done.
He has feats like ragdolling Corran horn, manipulating torpedoes, and manipulating freighters. Whether or not he had to "focus" his power is irrelevant to the fact he is more powerful than Bane
Its quite relevent since he has no feats to show he can muster that much power without time to focus, and since he wont have that time here those feats are whats irrelevant.
And why is it relevent when say vitate needs time to focus his power but irrelevant for kyp?
Originally posted by Raptor22
ya maybe not the best example since corran has no tk and if i recall, right after that kenth hamner ragdolled kyp for corran. Unless u were trying to show that all u need is kenth hamner level tk to ragdoll kyp. In which case well done.Its quite relevent since he has no feats to show he can muster that much power without time to focus, and since he wont have that time here those feats are whats irrelevant.
And why is it relevent when say vitate needs time to focus his power but irrelevant for kyp?
You made the point to "focus" power as if it makes a difference that it would matter in a general sense. Kyp is still vastly more powerful than Bane and even if he had to "focus" his power, it wouldn't matter because nothing Bane can do would bother him. So what if Kenth ragdolled Corran, Kenth still hasn't manipulated freighters or black holes or accomplished anything Kyp has. Nice false comparison though 👆
Kyp's power is sufficient enough to ragdoll Bane at any point during a fight.
I donl't think there's any valid point in denying that Kyp can ragdoll Bane. Kyp is just much more powerful in the force.
Kyp is also described by Luke as an expert swordman along with Katarn (take it as you like). Katarn who, while untrained, was able to defeat 7 Dark Jedi and Jerec through natural talent only.
Well similarly I don't think there's any valid point is suggesting that Kyp can ragdoll Bane. Kyp seriously isn't much more powerful than Bane nor is he more powerful at all. If we're playing that game I'll just suggest that Bane one-shots Kyp with lightning, since he has no feats of repelling lightning as powerful as Bane's. And since Bane has superior reaction and speed feats he attacks first.
Kyp being an expert duelist doesn't make him a threat to Bane.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well similarly I don't think there's any valid point is suggesting that Kyp can ragdoll Bane. Kyp seriously isn't much more powerful than Bane nor is he more powerful at all. If we're playing that game I'll just suggest that Bane one-shots Kyp with lightning, since he has no feats of repelling lightning as powerful as Bane's. And since Bane has superior reaction and speed feats he attacks first.
Bottom line is that the power dished out to manipulate black hole is magnitudes greater than the one Bane showed to possess at his disposal.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Kyp being an expert duelist doesn't make him a threat to Bane.
Can Bane actually be paired with someone he has a fair chance against? Kyp is way out of his league, and most of the users he gets put in with in threads are better than him too. In future threads you might want to use characters like Qui Gon Jin or Luminara Unduli, Bane has no business fighting with guys like Kyp
Originally posted by Stigma
I know of your stance for a while, and as you know, I disagree.Bottom line is that the power dished out to manipulate black hole is magnitudes greater than the one Bane showed to possess at his disposal.
Perhaps. It was more of a trivia remark, though.
Not necessarily. That feat is kind of unquantifiable, for various reasons. I don't consider it superior to Bane's best TK feats. Especially when his feats translate much smoother into combat situations.
And you didn't respond to my point about Bane's lightning. Should I assume you accept it then?