Kyp Durron vs. DoE Bane

Originally posted by carthage
He already performed them so its irrelevant whether or not you believe he can't unless you have proof he cant. Simply saying he needs to "gather power" obviously isn't proving your point, considering he accomplished said feat. This isn't terribly hard to understand.

Originally posted by Raptor22
so u have no proof that he can reach those levels of power without time to gather his power, and no logical reason as to why bane would give him the time, and no combat related feats either sabers or force. Gotchya. U didnt have to type all that out. U could have just said u had no relevant feats and been done with it.

Except he has multiple feats that exceed Bane's, is much more powerful than Bane as per his feats, and having to "Gather power" is hardly relevant to the fact that he's already applied telekinesis to other force users ergo he can do the same to Bane and dominate him.

Nice avoiding of the points though, you could've just said that Bane breaking tents and boxes is inferior in every possible way.

This is hilarious. Bane can't replicate his feats without amps, but Kyp can because carthage likes him more. Nice to see double standards that can't be attributed to me for a change.

What are you talking about? Kyp didn't need a nexus to accomplish his showings, and has sent force users flying and has superior feats to Bane in telekinesis. You tried listing nexus feats for Bane which he can't accomplish at all under neutral circumstances. Kyp didn't need any nexus for his feats.

If you can't comprehend the difference, that's your fault.

He didnt need an amp, just time. time which he will not have here. There for, the feats he has that he required said time are inadmissible. The logic isnt that complicated, i really dont see what u dont get.

Originally posted by Raptor22
He didnt need an amp, just time. time which he will not have here. There for, the feats he has that he required said time are inadmissible. The logic isnt that complicated, i really dont see what u dont get.

They aren't "inadmissible" considering they prove he's more powerful than Bane, and seeing as how he TKED Corran and given those showings he can incapacitate and destroy Bane with the force. What I don't get is why you can't show any feats for Bane that would prove he's more powerful than Kyp, and why anyone should believe that simply "Gathering" power would negate the fact that overall- Kyp has the demonstrably better showings

Not sure why you're acting as if he's never used telekinesis in combat.

This whole 'gather your powers' thing is an accusation frequently leveled at Yoda. Yoda manages to do just fine. Kyp is more then enough to prove why the Rule of 2 needed to be started...and why it took 1000 years to get a Sith worth talking about.

Suggesting that Bane isn't a Sith worth talking about it dumb. He's the freaking Sith'ari for christssake.

He is Sith'ari because, to his credit, he had a master plan that worked perfectly. He brought, in a real sense, salvation to the Sith by creating that plan. It doesn't necessarily mean he was all that and a bag of chips in personal combat. It does mean it was his purpose to set the Sith on a path that worked beautifully.

Except the Sith'ari was prophecised to possess godlike power. The word itself means "God of the Sith". The prophecy states that the Sith'ari will possess "perfect strength", "perfect power" and be "free of limits". That he will be a "perfect being". You can disagree in that Bane isn't perfect, but obviously the prophecy has a lot to do with martial strength and Force power.

The whole point of the Sith'ari is that he's King Adas reborn. Who was notable for his unsurpassed fighting prowess that let him unite the Sith and beat back the Rakata. For Bane to be a chump is ludicrous.

That was an exceptionally weak argument to make. Might as well say that Anakin > Bane since Anakin's prophecy > Bane's and Anakin's potential >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bane's and so on.

You're being silly.

Anakin would be >>>>>>>>>>>> Bane if he'd reached anywhere near his full potential. But he didn't. Bane on the other hand fully actualized himself as a Sith Lord and mastered the Force.

You're the one being silly. That was a terrible comparison.

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You're the one who said that Bane is obviously l33t because prophecy!!1!

Why doesn't that comparison work with Anakin, whose prophecy is vastly more important and significant than Bane's?

You're presh. But seriously, no.

Because part of Bane's prophecy is specifically about how he'll be godly powerful and strong, whereas Anakin's is just about him destroying the Sith and his power wasn't actualised or relevant to the prophecy itself.

I don't understand how you think a prophecies importance determines the prophecised strength though. Like, what? Importance has nothing to do with it, the relevant thing is that Bane was specifically prophecised to be incredibly powerful.

I'm pretty sure the prophecy is just:

In the time of greatest despair,
a child shall be born
who will destroy the Sith
and bring balance to the Force.

Which doesn't say anything about his power. Of course, as the Chosen One, Anakin was the most powerful mortal ever born. But that wasn't stated in the prophecy and as I pointed out he barely achieved 40% of his potential.

Bane was prophecised to possess immense power and he mastered his a hell of a lot more than Anakin did.

Neph, don't waste your time with the sock/troll. It will be banned and deleted in a little while.

I know, but I'm pretty sure Temp is gonna say something similar so I wanted to preempt that.

This thread is such a Bane circle jerk.

Yeah, the OP created a thread where he thinks Bane gets ragdolled and obviously it's a total Bane circlejerk.

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