Originally posted by Stoic
What he uses these days is superior to his old tech in every way. It's like comparing a Pentium 3 to a multi threaded 6 core PC.
It's not that simple. Some older suits were built like tanks able to absorb damage but not nearly as sophisticated whilst newer models offered more versatility yet lacked durability. Every armor has differences
Hmm naw I dont agree. His current suits are far more durable than his older suits. He managed to perfect his craft to a point where he can make like a 20 pound suit with greater durability than his earliest tank like suits. Look at the extremis suit it withstood punishment from the sentry and OF thor. They would have treated his past suits like tissue paper.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's not that simple. Some older suits were built like tanks able to absorb damage but not nearly as sophisticated whilst newer models offered more versatility yet lacked durability. Every armor has differences
I completely agree with you, but the suits that he tends to wear on a full time basis, tend to be multi purpose suits like his Mark IV suit. To be honest I don't think that this fight would be a stomp in favor of Tony (based on character), but I don't think he would lose. This is mainly because of the level of versatility that he brings to the table vs Aquaman's level of combat dominance. In other words, Aquaman is a little shy of being powerful enough to take this for the majority. And Carver, thanks for the scans. It shows how bad ass Tony actually is. He's even badder than that these days.
Originally posted by Stoic
I completely agree with you, but the suits that he tends to wear on a full time basis, tend to be multi purpose suits like his Mark IV suit. To be honest I don't think that this fight would be a stomp in favor of Tony (based on character), but I don't think he would lose. This is mainly because of the level of versatility that he brings to the table vs Aquaman's level of combat dominance. In other words, Aquaman is a little shy of being powerful enough to take this for the majority. And Carver, thanks for the scans. It shows how bad ass Tony actually is. He's even badder than that these days.
I agree that Tony is legit. However when push comes to shove i don't agree that he'd gain a majority over a brick with a slight (arguably) strength advantage over versatility. I'm also banking ALOT on that trident
Originally posted by Sin I AM
His cruise ship and submarine feat. What does tony have that replicates that? It's common knowledge.
Lifts a gigantic nuclear reactor.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/NCStrength01aIM259.jpg
Saves a jetliner.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/SCStrength01IM202.jpg
Catches a large falling generator then lifts it out of the way.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/HRStrength02IMv37.jpg
Knocks out Surfer.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/ClassicStrikingPower05Sub-Mariner35.jpg
Knocks out Hulk.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/ClassicStrikingPower09IM132.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
Tony holds every advantage here sans strength. He has shields, one shot kills weapons, blasts, flight, homing attacks, hell, he even has a Spider sense stored in his armor. Aquaman isn't winning this Sin. He even has Magnetic powers that could possibly plunge the trident right out of Arthurs hands. Tony wins the obvious majority.
Who wins, Surfer or Hulk 😈 Isn't that the argument you always use? That just because one guy has more versatility, it wouldn't necessarily win?
Anyway.
Aquaman takes this one. Yes, Galan has posted that sexy lightsabre that IM has - but have we forgotten that he was being absolutely creamed before (and after?) Is the Trident even magnetic? I have seen no evidence to it.
What we DO know, is that it is magical, and not only that, the most powerful of the ancient Atlantean artifacts. By its nature, it is magical - showcasing Tony's shields standing up to nukes etc, for example, isn't quite relevant. It is magical - it defies the laws of physics. A shield which can withstand 20GJ of energy (or whatever) won't necessarily stop a magical trident - because it isn't subject to physical laws.
Not to mention, Tony has gone on record as saying he prefers going up close and personal with his fights - which is a nightmare for him in this scenario.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you're the one that debates off of powerset. Aquaman isnt comparable to a guy that gets angry and become far more stronger, faster, more durable during the second. So your point is moot. The only advantage Aquaman has is his trident and imo that isn't enough.
No, but the relativity is.
What I mean by that is, one guy has fewer powers, but you give him the win.
Here, the exact same situation occurs, and you give the guy who has more powers the win.
Not to mention, you've forgotten strength.
In any case, magical trident is pretty powerful, I have a fan art of him stabbing Darkseid in the eyes. Drew it myself. Main point I am trying to make, is that shields which can tank nukes does not automatically mean that the strength+trident has to be > a nuke. Magic is funny like that.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, but the relativity is.What I mean by that is, one guy has fewer powers, but you give him the win.
Here, the exact same situation occurs, and you give the guy who has more powers the win.
Not to mention, you've forgotten strength.
In any case, magical trident is pretty powerful, I have a fan art of him stabbing Darkseid in the eyes. Drew it myself. Main point I am trying to make, is that shields which can tank nukes does not automatically mean that the strength+trident has to be > a nuke. Magic is funny like that.
You're still wrong though. If Aquaman was more durable, fastet, and stronger than Ironman, I would probably give him the edge but he doesn't hold a single advantage here...not even strength. What reason would I give him a majority over a guy who is him but has thousands of other tools to choose from as well? Doesn't make sense. Does the trident changes things that drastically? I don't think so. My post had nothing to do with just versatility. My post was in reference to a guy that is Aquaman plus major interest.
That doesn't fall in the Hulk vs Surfer category imo.
Originally posted by carver9
You're still wrong though. If Aquaman was more durable, fastet, and stronger than Ironman, I would probably give him the edge but he doesn't hold a single advantage here...not even strength. What reason would I give him a majority over a guy who is him but has thousands of other tools to choose from as well? Doesn't make sense. Does the trident changes things that drastically? I don't think so. My post had nothing to do with just versatility. My post was in reference to a guy that is Aquaman plus major interest.
You're the one who said he was stronger 😕
