Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who wins, Surfer or Hulk 😈 Isn't that the argument you always use? That just because one guy has more versatility, it wouldn't necessarily win?Anyway.
Aquaman takes this one. Yes, Galan has posted that sexy lightsabre that IM has - but have we forgotten that he was being absolutely creamed before (and after?) Is the Trident even magnetic? I have seen no evidence to it.
What we DO know, is that it is magical, and not only that, the most powerful of the ancient Atlantean artifacts. By its nature, it is magical - showcasing Tony's shields standing up to nukes etc, for example, isn't quite relevant. It is magical - it defies the laws of physics. A shield which can withstand 20GJ of energy (or whatever) won't necessarily stop a magical trident - because it isn't subject to physical laws.
Not to mention, Tony has gone on record as saying he prefers going up close and personal with his fights - which is a nightmare for him in this scenario.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I've stopped following New 52 AQ since Johns.. Has his trident exhibited something or something close to what you've proposed? I really don't see why Tony's shields would not be effective against the trident. He's had his run ins with opponents that wield magic..
What do you mean, as in, has it stabbed things before?
I know he has, Grey Gargoyle being one of them 😛 and he was struggling not to puke in his own suit with that guy, before he pulled his hail mary lightsabre out. And even then, a visibly hurt Gargoyle still pretty much creamed him.
TL; DR: Tony doesn't seem to use those nuke defending shields in every fight.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What do you mean, as in, has it stabbed things before?I know he has, Grey Gargoyle being one of them 😛 and he was struggling not to puke in his own suit with that guy, before he pulled his hail mary lightsabre out. And even then, a visibly hurt Gargoyle still pretty much creamed him.
TL; DR: Tony doesn't seem to use those nuke defending shields in every fight.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
When you stated that the shield would not necessarily work against the trident, did you mean it can bypass them because it's magic?
Ah. Yes, I meant in that the whole point of magic is that physical laws don't apply. That's almost the definition of magic.
So showcasing the power of his shields against PHYSICAL attacks, for example, is fine and dandy, if we were talking about a really sharp/hard trident made from promethium or something. But magical? Tricky. Hence why I'd ask for IM's shields against magical weapons (Excalibur? Ebony Blade?) , that's all.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah. Yes, I meant in that the whole point of magic is that physical laws don't apply. That's almost the definition of magic.So showcasing the power of his shields against PHYSICAL attacks, for example, is fine and dandy, if we were talking about a really sharp/hard trident made from promethium or something. But magical? Tricky. Hence why I'd ask for IM's shields against magical weapons (Excalibur? Ebony Blade?) , that's all.
am would def test the shield's strength. anyone have scans showing tony using one of his uber shields while simultaneously using offensive weapons....?
here is a little bit showing just how capable arthur is:
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am1.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am2.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am3.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am4.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am5.jpg.html
impressive as f***. arthur is a beast and that trident can do a LOT of damage. this is a really close fight.
Originally posted by leonidas
am would def test the shield's strength. anyone have scans showing tony using one of his uber shields while simultaneously using offensive weapons....?here is a little bit showing just how capable arthur is:
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am1.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am2.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am3.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am4.jpg.html
http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/am5.jpg.html
impressive as f***. arthur is a beast and that trident can do a LOT of damage. this is a really close fight.
I didnt realize that was jeff parker and not johns.. I guess I did read past johns. Stopped at AQ vs DC Herc...
Originally posted by carver9
Leo, do you think Ironman could magnetically control the Trident?
yeah, probably. but...what would he do with it? if it came to h2h arthur would just get it back. IM isn't destroying it. guess he could throw it, but AM is fast enough to reclaim it. i also doubt he could literally disarm the trident if arthur is holding it. IM would just get the trident AND arthur. if it were thrown i guess magnetism could work. i guess what i'm saying is--i don't see magnetism in anyway being a gamechanger in this match.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
👆I didnt realize that was jeff parker and not johns.. I guess I did read past johns. Stopped at AQ vs DC Herc...
i've really enjoyed the series. they've made arthur into a solid, enjoyable character. i think arthur is awesome. though i do wish they would have given more of a tp push...
Originally posted by leonidas
i've really enjoyed the series. they've made arthur into a solid, enjoyable character. i think arthur is awesome. though i do wish they would have given more of a tp push...
