New canon, good or bad?

The argument that the Stormtroopers were missing on purpose during the Death Star has always been asinine. Sure, Vader and Tarkin were willing to let the rebels escape but that doesn't mean the Stormies were just standing around waiting to be killed...

Originally posted by ares834
The argument that the Stormtroopers were missing on purpose during the Death Star has always been asinine. Sure, Vader and Tarkin were willing to let the rebels escape but that doesn't mean the Stormies were just standing around waiting to be killed...

Apparently you don't know Stormtroopers then, they follow orders to the letter, no matter what. Also how is it asinine exactly? That's what happened, there isn't really an argument.

It's asinine to believe that entire squads of soldiers are going to follow an order to intentionally miss and allow themselves and fellow soldiers to be shot.... And no, it's not "what happened". It's never stated in the films or script. It's just a shitty theory some fans have based on the fact that Vader and Co let them escape.

Originally posted by ares834
It's asinine to believe that entire squads of soldiers are going to follow an order to intentionally miss and allow themselves and fellow soldiers to be shot.... And no, it's not "what happened". It's never stated in the films or script. It's just a shitty theory some fans have based on the fact that Vader and Co let them escape.

Yeah, because the dialogue didn't mention that they were let go or anything by the Empire....right.

Tarkin: "Are they away?"

Vader: "They just made the jump into hyperspace."

Tarkin: "You sure the homing beacon is secure aboard their ship? I've taken an awful risk Vader, this had better work."

Then later...

Leia: "They let us go."

Leia: "Their tracking us."

The Empire was trying to find the Rebel base, in what sense would they kill the group going directly to the base?

It was pretty much flat out said, that they were let go.

Also yes they would, Stormtroopers were trained to follow orders and ignore casualties.

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Are you dense or did you not read my post? I said "Vader and Co let them escape." However, no where is it stated that the Stormies are in on the plan. And, well, it's borderline ridiculous to believe they are.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
I'm going to make a thread with my thoughts on rebels

Please do. That would be interesting.

Or, Vader and Tarkin simply didn't send as many storm troopers after them as they should've.

What a few squads? The Millennium Falcon relatively unprotected? Four TIE fighters sent after them as they made their escape?

Vader and Tarkin didn't need to tell the stormies to suck for Luke and friends to escape. All they needed to do was adjust the strategy with which they deployed the stormies.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Or, Vader and Tarkin simply didn't send as many storm troopers after them as they should've.

What a few squads? The Millennium Falcon relatively unprotected? Four TIE fighters sent after them as they made their escape?

Vader and Tarkin didn't need to tell the stormies to suck for Luke and friends to escape. All they needed to do was adjust the strategy with which they deployed the stormies.

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Exactly.

Originally posted by ares834
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Are you dense or did you not read my post? I said "Vader and Co let them escape." However, no where is it stated that the Stormies are in on the plan. And, well, it's borderline ridiculous to believe they are.

Why is it ridiculous to believe that they were? It doesn't have to be stated that the Stormtroopers knew....why would Tarkin and Vader be the only ones knowing about the plan?

Plus who do you think placed the homing beacon aboard the falcon? I don't think Vader or Tarkin would do it personally.

But fine, believe what you will.

I never said Vader and Tarkin were the only ones who knew. Rather I was saying that all the STs didn't know. As for the ridiculous, it's the ST intentionally throwing themselves into the meat grinder. It's a big step from following orders to serving as a meat shield.

Originally posted by ares834
I never said Vader and Tarkin were the only ones who knew. Rather I was saying that all the STs didn't know. As for the ridiculous, it's the ST intentionally throwing themselves into the meat grinder. It's a big step from following orders to serving as a meat shield.

So you know, Stormtroopers have taken on suicide missions and have no fear of death. So....it's not really ridiculous. They follow their orders to the letter, it doesn't matter if they die.

But fine Ares, believe what you want, but Stormtroopers don't suck at the end of the day.

They do. 🙂

ANH, RotJ, and now Rebels confirm it. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
They do. 🙂

ANH, RotJ, and now Rebels confirm it. 👆

...Do you typically enjoy it when the bad guys suck or is this motivated by some sort of nostalgia induced boner for the OT?

Man I love Stormtroopers just because of their outfit. Still look much better than any Clonetroopers ever did. But it is a shame they're not anywhere near as competent as the Clones.

Originally posted by ares834
Are you dense or did you not read my post?

Nothing like accusing the opposition of bring dense to get your point across.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Even though the new canon is only just begun I would like your opinion on whether it is being handled well or poorly. Please explain why you feel this way

They needn't to erase everythings I mean if they make a good moovie with better a better story. The esthetic of Dark empire series was total shit. So make better graphics etc...

They pretext : free artiscal blabla...

But the EU is REALLY OPEN !!!!!!!! You are already totaly free ! You make your moovie awsome you get the canon !

The rumor say than they have echues with the scenarios... They must follow the construction of previous moovies.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
...Do you typically enjoy it when the bad guys suck or is this motivated by some sort of nostalgia induced boner for the OT?

Not sure where you got the idea that I enjoy incompetent villains... However, other villains (in both the OT and Rebels) make up for the STs lack of competency.

Originally posted by ILS
The sign of a promising debater 👆

Nothing like accusing the opposition of bring dense to get your point across.

And had you bothered to read the argument, you would see he clearly misread or ignored a direct statement I had. Yeah, it happens.

Why rebooting all the entire EU when the EU allow you to produce a REMAKE?????

Originally posted by ares834
And had you bothered to read the argument, you would see he clearly misread or ignored a direct statement I had. Yeah, it happens.

Lol actually, Wolf cornered Ares in that debate, at which point Ares called him dense and gave his own fan-fiction interpretation of events that are supported by nothing.

I think it's safe to say that Wolf isn't the dense party here.