New canon, good or bad?

I don't know, I always kind of accepted that stormtroopers were largely made up of ordinary recruits and wouldn't be too competent. It kind of fit for me with the Empire giving them crappy armor and ships that they really didn't give a shit about them other than as disposable fodder so didn't bother training them all that well. The Empire always felt so large and powerful that could afford that. And it kind of seemed appropriate with their own complacency and arrogance biting them in the ass and letting the plucky rebels actually compete with them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't know, I always kind of accepted that stormtroopers were largely made up of ordinary recruits and wouldn't be too competent. It kind of fit for me with the Empire giving them crappy armor and ships that they really didn't give a shit about them other than as disposable fodder so didn't bother training them all that well. The Empire always felt so large and powerful that could afford that. And it kind of seemed appropriate with their own complacency and arrogance biting them in the ass and letting the plucky rebels actually compete with them.

....Are you serious?....The Empire gave the Stormtroopers the best weapons and armor that they could afford and in no way shape or form, was the Empire ever incompetent as a whole. They were kicking the Rebels asses throughout the EU and also in the movies tbh, in one particular instance, the Rebels nearly lost their entire fleet due to a plan set by the Empire. Sure the TIE fighter wasn't that greatest in terms of armor and had no shielding, but it was by far one of the most maneuverable craft at the time and boasted weapons greater than an X-wing. Then came the likes of the TIE Interceptor, Aggressor, Phantom etc that made it better.

Other instances, their bases were destroyed. There's a reason why the Rebels was a hit and run operation, they were never gonna be able to straight up engage the Empire at all.

In fact quite honestly, the Rebels shouldn't have even won the GCW. The only reason they lasted so long, was because they were constantly on the move.

The EU even stated that Stormtroopers were their elite branch of troops.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The EU even stated that Stormtroopers were their elite branch of troops.

In virtually EVERY single book/sourcebook yeah...

People just misinterpret the Battle of Endor. Oh and Rebels isn't doing too much of a good job, although I like to think that planets like Lothal had newbies running around.

Originally posted by The Merchant
People just misinterpret the Battle of Endor. Oh and Rebels isn't doing too much of a good job, although I like to think that planets like Lothal had newbies running around.

1. That is a gross understatement.

2. I kinda cringe at it, infact I think that was stated but they have had some alright showings. Nothing big, but still...even then, there's still a whole mess of new EU to explore and besides the movies already show the Stormtroopers as great anyway.

They also now have a few of the best accuracy feats in the new lore now when looking at the movies.

IE: The Speeder bike chase and Tatooine, where Obi-Wan comments that Stormtroopers > Sand People in terms of accuracy and we saw in EP 1 Sand People tagging and destroying Podracers which were moving fast.

Before someone brings up Obi-Wan wasn't at the race, it doesn't matter. He's lived on Tatooine for quite some time, he showed knowledge of Sand People being frightened, how they ride single file, his statement isn't baseless, he wouldn't have made it otherwise.

The Speeder Bike chase, that Scout Trooper made a ridiculously accurate shot with his blaster pistol considering he was driving one handed and he and Leia were driving on fast moving speeder bikes through the forest.

The Galactic Empire>>>Vitiate's Empire btw.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The Galactic Empire>>>Vitiate's Empire btw.

Well there's a big can of worms you just opened up, although not sure it's appropriate for this thread.

Hope you can manage all the worms Merchant.

Pfft, these Dreks can't tell the difference between a nebulon-b Frigate and a Mon Calamari Star cruiser.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you.

Yeah, I used to own two of the bundled copies. Not sure how many there are. But even a few years ago, the single stories were hard to find, I had to purchase the bundled copies just for a few stories, so I could only imagine now.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The Galactic Empire>>>Vitiate's Empire btw.

Galactic empire have a bigger fleet with better technology...

Still Vitiate have hord and hord of mega powerfull force users under his command, some fury fighters..... And some good intell...

Originally posted by Zenwolf
1. That is a gross understatement.

2. I kinda cringe at it, infact I think that was stated but they have had some alright showings. Nothing big, but still...even then, there's still a whole mess of new EU to explore and besides the movies already show the Stormtroopers as great anyway.

They also now have a few of the best accuracy feats in the new lore now when looking at the movies.

IE: The Speeder bike chase and Tatooine, where Obi-Wan comments that Stormtroopers > Sand People in terms of accuracy and we saw in EP 1 Sand People tagging and destroying Podracers which were moving fast.

Before someone brings up Obi-Wan wasn't at the race, it doesn't matter. He's lived on Tatooine for quite some time, he showed knowledge of Sand People being frightened, how they ride single file, his statement isn't baseless, he wouldn't have made it otherwise.

The Speeder Bike chase, that Scout Trooper made a ridiculously accurate shot with his blaster pistol considering he was driving one handed and he and Leia were driving on fast moving speeder bikes through the forest.

Rebels is great. It's a lot of fun.

Other than that I haven't bothered with any of the so-called "new canon." With the state of the economy I don't want to waste my money and none of it looks interesting anyway.

So overall besides Rebels the new canon doesn't interest me in the slightest.

In term of story better keep the old one....
That was good stuff like the apprentice...

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't know, I always kind of accepted that stormtroopers were largely made up of ordinary recruits and wouldn't be too competent. It kind of fit for me with the Empire giving them crappy armor and ships that they really didn't give a shit about them other than as disposable fodder so didn't bother training them all that well. The Empire always felt so large and powerful that could afford that. And it kind of seemed appropriate with their own complacency and arrogance biting them in the ass and letting the plucky rebels actually compete with them.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Well there's a big can of worms you just opened up, although not sure it's appropriate for this thread.

Hope you can manage all the worms Merchant.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
kind of like rome

That's right don't feed imperial propaganda !