General Zod (MOS) vs Sebastian Shaw (First Class)

Started by KingD1913 pages

Shaw only bragged to people who couldn't turn it around on him. He didn't brag to Magneto or any of the kids at the CIA like when he killed Darwin. He just tanked everything and showed them who was boss.

Protip: Its foolish to bet against Kevin Bacon

I dont know how Zod will overcome that fact.

Originally posted by relentless1
although i love your profile pic mindset i think that your bias towards marvel is detrimental. cut it out
I have no marvel bias, son.

I argue with facts and maths.

The only equation people need to worry about here: how many of Zod's punches while Shaw need to absorb until Shaw is strong enough to rip Zod in half. Guess he could just break Zod's neck like Kal did, be easier

Shaw has to consciously absorb energy; it isn't automatic.

Zod is faster than Shaw's thoughts.

Zod wins. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shaw has to consciously absorb energy; it isn't automatic.

Zod is faster than Shaw's thoughts.

Zod wins. 👆

I don't even think its conscious. The dudes brain was functioning when Magneto put the coin through his head. He was listening to Erics entire monologue. That means he has to use his body somehow to activate it, so it's not even as fast as his thoughts.

Which is a good thing, since I don't think Zod is faster than the speed of thought. Maybe fast enough to blitz away and out of nowhere before Shaw sees him.

But can't Zod just carry the dude to space and leave him? Or are people arguing that he's immovable now too?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Shaw has to consciously absorb energy; it isn't automatic.

Zod is faster than Shaw's thoughts.

Zod wins. 👆

Nope.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I don't even think its conscious. The dudes brain was functioning when Magneto put the coin through his head. He was listening to Erics entire monologue. That means he has to use his body somehow to activate it, so it's not even as fast as his thoughts.

Which is a good thing, since I don't think Zod is faster than the speed of thought. Maybe fast enough to blitz away and out of nowhere before Shaw sees him.

But can't Zod just carry the dude to space and leave him? Or are people arguing that he's immovable now too?

And nope.

Shaw 10/10 👆

1. Zod
2. Zod but closer fight

So it's seven, that's the number of punches Shaw needs to absorb to be strong enough to tear Zod in half

Just absorbing the kinetic energy of his own footsteps made Shaw strong enough to throw a 180ish pound human out of Earth's orbit.

So maths:

1 Zod punch equals the kinetic energy of 1 trillion footsteps

1 X 7 = KE of 7 trillion footsteps absorbed

KE of 7 trillion footsteps = Zod torn in half

#maths

Shaw was shot a few times before he toss said "180ish pound man nowhere near out of Earth's orbit"

EDIT: That clip is incomplete

Originally posted by Robtard
So it's seven, that's the number of punches Shaw needs to absorb to be strong enough to tear Zod in half

Just absorbing the kinetic energy of his own footsteps made Shaw strong enough to throw a 180ish pound human out of Earth's orbit.

So maths:

1 Zod punch equals the kinetic energy of 1 trillion footsteps

1 X 7 = KE of 7 trillion footsteps absorbed

KE of 7 trillion footsteps = Zod torn in half

#maths

👆

Game Over.

Originally posted by juggerman
Shaw was shot a few times before he toss said "180ish pound man nowhere near out of Earth's orbit"

EDIT: That clip is incomplete

Yeah, that's what I thought, I recalled saying in another thread that Shaw absorbed several bullets to power up enough to toss the guy out of orbit. Possibly the Shaw Vs Hulk or Shaw Vs Superman or Shaw Vs Thor thread, I think Thor

Still, my point overall stands since one of Zod's punches equals the kinetic energy of billions of 9mm bullets

So the number is now eleven, Shaw needs to absorb eleven Zod punches in order to be strong enough to tear Zod in half

Originally posted by Placidity
👆

Game Over.

It's wrong

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, that's what I thought, I recalled saying in another thread that Shaw absorbed several bullets to power up enough to toss the guy out of orbit. Possibly the Shaw Vs Hulk or Shaw Vs Superman or Shaw Vs Thor thread, I think Thor

Still, my point overall stands since one of Zod's punches equals the kinetic energy of billions of 9mm bullets

So the number is now eleven, Shaw needs to absorb eleven Zod punches in order to be strong enough to tear Zod in half

Yeah I remember someone pointing it out before.

Shaw loses in both. After one punch from Zod he would notice Shaw wasn't exploded instatntly or at least thrown a great distance. I highly doubt he would just continue punching all willy nilly. And I doubt Shaw will wait for precisly 11 punches to hit back wit collected energy

Nah, he kept punching Kal despite causing virtually no damage. His butt-rage and built-in aggression would make him throw at least eleven punches, likely far more including heat-vision and throwing large objects at Shaw

But how do you see Zod winning if Zod's only throwing one punch and then stopping?

Also of note, Shaw is seemingly able to multiple the energy he's absorbed when using it. Notice how he absorbed one RPG and a few hundred rounds, but was able to convert that into a far greater explosion when he took out the stairs? So even the energy of one Zod punch would make Shaw extremely powerful

It's interesting how DC characters will either overload Shaw or suddenly realize(IE after only 1 punch) that just punching Shaw won't work and immediately try other options, yet anytime he faces a Marvel character it's assumed that sed character will just keep punching/shooting him and that he'll never overload.

Shaw wins this.

Originally posted by Robtard

Also of note, Shaw is seemingly able to multiple the energy he's absorbed when using it. Notice how he absorbed one RPG and a few hundred rounds, but was able to convert that into a far greater explosion when he took out the stairs? So even the energy of one Zod punch would make Shaw extremely powerful

He also absorbed Havok's blast and amped it enough that it overrode Darwin's adaptation and outright killed him. Something which shouldn't have been possible.

Originally posted by Arachnid1

Which is a good thing, since I don't think Zod is faster than the speed of thought.
It doesn't matter what you think. You're wrong.

The speed of thought isn't particularly fast.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod's an arrogant rager, if he opened up with heat-vision, Shaw would just absorb it (likely while mocking Zod for being inferior) and this would only further enrage Zod since Shaw just made Zod's penis look small. Which would make Zod only want to punch off Shaw's smug face, playing right into Shaw's power-set

I know you don't believe what you are saying because you clearly always side with Krptonians.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I know you don't believe what you are saying because you clearly always side with Krptonians.

No, I don't

Shaw's power-set is catered to take out a Kryptonian, this is why he wins here