Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, technically he wouldn't be absorbing anti-gravity. He'd just be absorbing the energy Zod is exerting against him, not the energy Zod is using to propel himself.
As shown when Zod and Kal fly, they have a anti gravity field around them, which causes Zods armor to hover next to him as he takes it off, as well as before MoS flys. Shaw can't stop himself from being picked up.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
As shown when Zod and Kal fly, they have a anti gravity field around them, which causes Zods armor to hover next to him as he takes it off, as well as before MoS flys. Shaw can't stop himself from being picked up.
There does seem to be limits, as Clark still had to hold onto people to carry them when he flew. Doesn't matter in anyways. As someone else pointed out, Zod could literally just tear the chunk of earth Shaw is standing on out of the ground, and Shaw's powers would be useless to stop it.
The interesting thing about this fight is it all depends on what Zod would do.
If he decides to toss Shaw into space then he can win.
If he decides to slowly strangle Shaw, I can see him winning, too.
But if he decides to slug it out from the start
Also, wasn't Magneto literally tossing girders at Shaw to try and slow him down and Shaw just nonchalantly walked thru it? It certainly looks like Shaw had a protective field around him when he did. Might mean that he'd have resistance to being moved/thrown.
Plus how fast can Zod even carry him into space? Isn't Shaw, gonna you know try and punch Zod's face off while he is doing this?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
There does seem to be limits, as Clark still had to hold onto people to carry them when he flew. Doesn't matter in anyways. As someone else pointed out, Zod could literally just tear the chunk of earth Shaw is standing on out of the ground, and Shaw's powers would be useless to stop it.
If Zod opens up with this move, sure. But in case he gets powered up ala heat vision and a few Kryptonian punches, what's to stop him from smashing the chunk of earth with his feet?
I am still seeing a speed issue here. Unless we assume, without onscreen proof , that Shaw can significantly boost his speed via energy absorbing (imitating a piece of jello doesn't count), he is still going to be WAY slower than Zod. Considering the speed even Nam-Ek showed (causing sonic booms despite seemingly being the slowest of the 4), Shaw would need to boost himself to supersonic levels to be able to compete with Zod. And that's assuming Zod never uses flight speed.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Zod might be a smart fighter, but let's at least be honest here, he has exactly zero feats to suggest that seeing Shaw tank a single punch would be enough for him to stop and go "Gee, this guy tanked my punch, that must mean that he has the ability to absorb kinetic energy".
Not if it was just a tanked punch and stood there normally. But let's be honest, the way he tanks, vibrating and such, would raise eyebrows instantly.
Originally posted by juggerman
Not if it was just a tanked punch and stood there normally. But let's be honest, the way he tanks, vibrating and such, would raise eyebrows instantly.
Raise eyebrows maybe, but he has as much chance of assuming that it's some sort of defensive force field rather than think it's a form of offensive kinetic absportion. If so, he'd end up hitting him harder and more often in an attempt to crack it.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I am still seeing a speed issue here. Unless we assume, without onscreen proof , that Shaw can significantly boost his speed via energy absorbing (imitating a piece of jello doesn't count), he is still going to be WAY slower than Zod. Considering the speed even Nam-Ek showed (causing sonic booms despite seemingly being the slowest of the 4), Shaw would need to boost himself to supersonic levels to be able to compete with Zod. And that's assuming Zod never uses flight speed.
Don't remember Zod showing a lot of avoidance with his Super speed. He used it to body slam into Superman quite a bit. Rest assured repeatedly flying into Shaw at that speed wouldn't end too well for him at some point. :-p
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Raise eyebrows maybe, but he has as much chance of assuming that it's some sort of defensive force field rather than think it's a form of offensive kinetic absportion. If so, he'd end up hitting him harder and more often in an attempt to crack it.
I already said he probably wouldn't guess he absorbed energy but he would realise hitting him is not the answer. I doubt he would just keep hitting him.
Would basic knowledge let Zod know Shaw's power? I'm leaning toward no but idk for sure
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Don't remember Zod showing a lot of avoidance with his Super speed. He used it to body slam into Superman quite a bit. Rest assured repeatedly flying into Shaw at that speed wouldn't end too well for him at some point. :-p
The difference here is that Clark is actually in the same speed class. Shaw isn't. We saw how much faster Kryptonians are than humans. Unless Shaw can also amp his speed, it doesn't matter how much power he builds up, because he will never be able to land a hit.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The difference here is that Clark is actually in the same speed class. Shaw isn't. We saw how much faster Kryptonians are than humans. Unless Shaw can also amp his speed, it doesn't matter how much power he builds up, because he will never be able to land a hit.
Did Zod even try to dodge anything in MoS? IIRC, they weren't too fast for rockets or getting shot. And I don't even think he tried to dodge much in MoS at all. I remember thr girl moving around pretty quickly but soldiers didn't seem to have trouble tagging her. They could move pretty fast but they didn't seem to want to dodge anything.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
There does seem to be limits, as Clark still had to hold onto people to carry them when he flew. Doesn't matter in anyways. As someone else pointed out, Zod could literally just tear the chunk of earth Shaw is standing on out of the ground, and Shaw's powers would be useless to stop it.
And Shaw is going to just stand their and wait while Zod digs and rips out the ground from under him? LoL!
Originally posted by juggerman
Not if it was just a tanked punch and stood there normally. But let's be honest, the way he tanks, vibrating and such, would raise eyebrows instantly.
Still wouldn't be enough for Zod to figure it out after one punch, especially since he has zero knowledge of that type of power even existing.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Shaw never moved fast..infact, he moved very slow.
Shaw was shown running as fast as Kevin Bacon can run, actually (yacht scene, iirc). Which would be fast enough to step off the piece of ground Zod is trying to rip out and carry in this ridiculous scenario of Zod punching Shaw once and then deducing that the way to defeat Shaw is by lifting the ground from under him. LoL!